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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 7:40 pm 
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The bit with the Levite's concubine (raped to death, then he cuts her up and sends bits of her body everywhere?).


Fuckin' metal :dio: .


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i love the story about Lot... funny enough, the version you hear in primary school is heavily cut, the incest part is censored away


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Astaroth wrote:
i love the story about Lot... funny enough, the version you hear in primary school is heavily cut, the incest part is censored away


The best bit? Rabbinic commentators generally agree that Lot was aware of it all. And lovin' it.


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Both!


:rolleyes:


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Both!


:rolleyes:


The Nigger Alarm one made me lol, but the cockmongler one is pissy.


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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
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Both!


:rolleyes:


The Nigger Alarm one made me lol, but the cockmongler one is pissy.


You have persuaded me to change it.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
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Both!


:rolleyes:


The Nigger Alarm one made me lol, but the cockmongler one is pissy.


You have persuaded me to change it.


Neat-o, gang.


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Zad wrote:
Astaroth wrote:
i love the story about Lot... funny enough, the version you hear in primary school is heavily cut, the incest part is censored away


The best bit? Rabbinic commentators generally agree that Lot was aware of it all. And lovin' it.


I love it. A great message to send kids:

"If you're gay, God will destroy you! But if you want to seduce one of your parents, why, thats okay!"

Anyway, as Zad says, the Hebrew bible is full of some depraved shit, and Yahweh is a huge douche. I wouldn't mind it so (because it can be pretty entertaining, like Greek mythology) much if some modern Jews weren't so self righteous about it- "killing all the first born in Egypt was the only moral thing to do! They started it!"

Say what?

Though of course, there's no archaeological evidence that the jews were ever in Egypt, so thats kind of a huge burn.


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Zad wrote:
Both!

And who says the Bible doesn't advocate rape? David and Bathsheba? The bit with the Levite's concubine (raped to death, then he cuts her up and sends bits of her body everywhere?). Lot's daughters thinking Lot is the last man left on the planet, so they both get him drunk, (somehow) have sex with him and their children are Amnon and Moab? David (again!) and Jonathan's 'oh-no-they-weren't-gay-they-were-just-very-good-friends' relationship? Judah and Tamar?

Not to mention how childish and psychotic Yahweh is. Stonings, plagues, wars, the complete and utter annihilation of the seventy nations that lived in Judea before the Israelites arrived?

The Bible is very, very wrong. Be thankful Jews are underdogs...


just because it happens in the bible doesn't mean they advocate it :\


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You've never read it, then. David gets punished not for raping Bathsheba, but for putting her husband at the front of the army so he'd die and she could marry him. He is punished by having a plague come on the people. Ie, rape is ok, getting people killed isn't. And then it contradicts that elsewhere...


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Yeah but the only stuff that's actually telling you what to do in the bible is what jesus is all about


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Yeah but the only stuff that's actually telling you what to do in the bible is what jesus is all about


Pah. That's not the REAL bible.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 11:44 am 
indeed.. this is the real deal:

Exo 21:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

Deut 21:18-21 If a man have a stubborn and rebellious son, which will not obey the voice of his father, or the voice of his mother, and that, when they have chastened him, will not hearken unto them: Then shall his father and his mother lay hold on him, and bring him out unto the elders of his city, and unto the gate of his place; And they shall say unto the elders of his city, This our son is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey our voice; he is a glutton, and a drunkard. And all the men of his city shall stone him with stones, that he die: so shalt thou put evil away from among you; and all Israel shall hear, and fear.

Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death

Deuteronomy 13:6-10 If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is as thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.



Jesus ist krieg too!!!

Matt 10:34-37Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. And a man's foes shall be they of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me

Luke 14, 26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Luke 19, 27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me

Luke 12,4-5 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.


Jesus ist Krieg...

or if you prefer jesus' regular parables:

John 15:1-2,6I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned

in other words... convert or burn in hell, muddafukka!!!


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The Bible rocks!!! There's rape, mutilation, deceit and violence. What more could you ask for? :dio:


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The Bible rocks!!! There's rape, mutilation, deceit and violence. What more could you ask for? :dio:


That people not use it as a moral guide.

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I have one of those bibles from when I was into Christianity 9-10 years ago. :sad:

Examples of OT stupidity:
The story Ruth is all about sleeping with a guy to get free shit.

The circumcision's symbolism came from Moses'(or maybe Abraham) kid's severed foreskin being touched to his father's penis while wrestling with Yahweh and they say they disapprove of homos. :rolleyes:


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