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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 7:32 pm 
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Art major Aliza Shvarts '08 wants to make a statement.

Beginning next Tuesday, Shvarts will be displaying her senior art project, a documentation of a nine-month process during which she artificially inseminated herself "as often as possible" while periodically taking abortifacient drugs to induce miscarriages. Her exhibition will feature video recordings of these forced miscarriages as well as preserved collections of the blood from the process.

The goal in creating the art exhibition, Shvarts said, was to spark conversation and debate on the relationship between art and the human body. But her project has already provoked more than just debate, inciting, for instance, outcry at a forum for fellow senior art majors held last week. And when told about Shvarts' project, students on both ends of the abortion debate have expressed shock . saying the project does everything from violate moral code to trivialize abortion.

But Shvarts insists her concept was not designed for "shock value."

"I hope it inspires some sort of discourse," Shvarts said. "Sure, some people will be upset with the message and will not agree with it, but it's not the intention of the piece to scandalize anyone."

The "fabricators," or donors, of the sperm were not paid for their services, but Shvarts required them to periodically take tests for sexually transmitted diseases. She said she was not concerned about any medical effects the forced miscarriages may have had on her body. The abortifacient drugs she took were legal and herbal, she said, and she did not feel the need to consult a doctor about her repeated miscarriages.

Shvarts declined to specify the number of sperm donors she used, as well as the number of times she inseminated herself.

Art major Juan Castillo '08 said that although he was intrigued by the creativity and beauty of her senior project, not everyone was as thrilled as he was by the concept and the means by which she attained the result.

"I really loved the idea of this project, but a lot other people didn't," Castillo said. "I think that most people were very resistant to thinking about what the project was really about. [The senior-art-project forum] stopped being a conversation on the work itself."

Although Shvarts said she does not remember the class being quite as hostile as Castillo described, she said she believes it is the nature of her piece to "provoke inquiry."

"I believe strongly that art should be a medium for politics and ideologies, not just a commodity," Shvarts said. "I think that I'm creating a project that lives up to the standard of what art is supposed to be."

The display of Schvarts' project will feature a large cube suspended from the ceiling of a room in the gallery of Green Hall. Schvarts will wrap hundreds of feet of plastic sheeting around this cube; lined between layers of the sheeting will be the blood from Schvarts' self-induced miscarriages mixed with Vaseline in order to prevent the blood from drying and to extend the blood throughout the plastic sheeting.

Schvarts will then project recorded videos onto the four sides of the cube. These videos, captured on a VHS camcorder, will show her experiencing miscarriages in her bathrooom tub, she said. Similar videos will be projected onto the walls of the room.

School of Art lecturer Pia Lindman, Schvarts' senior-project advisor, could not be reached for comment Wednesday night.

Few people outside of Yale's undergraduate art department have heard about Shvarts' exhibition. Members of two campus abortion-activist groups . Choose Life at Yale, a pro-life group, and the Reproductive Rights Action League of Yale, a pro-choice group . said they were not previously aware of Schvarts' project.

Alice Buttrick '10, an officer of RALY, said the group was in no way involved with the art exhibition and had no official opinion on the matter.

Sara Rahman '09 said, in her opinion, Shvarts is abusing her constitutional right to do what she chooses with her body.

"[Shvarts' exhibit] turns what is a serious decision for women into an absurdism," Rahman said. "It discounts the gravity of the situation that is abortion."

CLAY member Jonathan Serrato '09 said he does not think CLAY has an official response to Schvarts' exhibition. But personally, Serrato said he found the concept of the senior art project "surprising" and unethical.

"I feel that she's manipulating life for the benefit of her art, and I definitely don't support it," Serrato said. "I think it's morally wrong."

Shvarts emphasized that she is not ashamed of her exhibition, and she has become increasingly comfortable discussing her miscarriage experiences with her peers.

"It was a private and personal endeavor, but also a transparent one for the most part," Shvarts said. "This isn't something I've been hiding."

The official reception for the Undergraduate Senior Art Show will be from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. on April 25. The exhibition will be on public display from April 22 to May 1. The art exhibition is set to premiere alongside the projects of other art seniors this Tuesday, April 22 at the gallery of Holcombe T. Green Jr. Hall on Chapel Street.


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I don't really care about babies or the douche having abortions. What does make me frustrated is the fact that this sort of senior art project would a. be conceived by an Ivy league university student and b. she would actually get approval from this from a supervisor.

I wonder if she faked it though. That would make it forgivable, not morally, but intellectually. Otherwise get this idiot off my planet.


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I hate artists so much.


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It's a shame that this kind of dumb "shock-and-awe" or "I could do that" bullshit is the only kind of "modern" art that gets the spotlight these days. I remember I went to a modern art exhibit a few months ago, and there was some really cool stuff there.


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Schvarts will wrap hundreds of feet of plastic sheeting around this cube; lined between layers of the sheeting will be the blood from Schvarts' self-induced miscarriages mixed with Vaseline in order to prevent the blood from drying and to extend the blood throughout the plastic sheeting.


Someone lock this bitch up, please.

A sickening display. I hope she fails if this is a graded reveal.

Causing her own miscarriages? I mean what the fuck.


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I'm not touching this with a 12 1/2 foot pole.


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Does anyone remember that French guy that made jewelry and paintings out of his own turd?


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This is sick. This bitch is insanely sick. It's very unethical and I hope the artists' association (if they have any) ban her. Obviously she doesn't see the danger of abortion, what more frequent ones? I hopes she does but ends up bleeding to death.


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Causing her own miscarriages? I mean what the fuck.


Women have been doing it for centuries.

It's an interesting idea, overall. I'm a fence-sitter when it comes to modern art, it's often both very clever and very stupid. This girl could be a genius, or she could be a damaged slut who likes to paint in her own bodily fluids. If all else fails, I bet Marilyn Manson'd buy it (for a dollar, etc).

Edit: It might or might not be performance art, according to an update. And

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“It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems,” the president of the National Right to Life Committee, Wanda Franz, was quoted as saying on the Web site of FOX News. “She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought.”


Stupid. Abortion is no more immoral than taking a crap.


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“It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems,” the president of the National Right to Life Committee, Wanda Franz, was quoted as saying on the Web site of FOX News. “She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought.”


Stupid. Abortion is no more immoral than taking a crap.


:rolleyes:

I don't want to start an abortion debate, but you're wrong Zad.


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“It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems,” the president of the National Right to Life Committee, Wanda Franz, was quoted as saying on the Web site of FOX News. “She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought.”


Stupid. Abortion is no more immoral than taking a crap.


:rolleyes:

I don't want to start an abortion debate, but you're wrong Zad.
Bodies sometimes naturally perform abortions so what's the big deal. Miscarriages = Abortions.

Besides the obvious "shock and awe" lameness, I think this would be really cool minus the video screens. I'm sure you guys have seen Andres Serrano's blood and semen art on the covers of Metallica's Load and Reload. I see this as similar but to the extreme. I think seeing that much human fluid collected would be disgusting to the point of vomiting but in some way awe-inspiring?.

*waits for everyone to turn on me and point out how she is ruining her body and killing babies but at least she is doing something mildly productive with sperm which could've been just wiped on a towel so I could honestly care less and wouldn't her overuse of abortion medication be tragically feministic?


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*waits for everyone to turn on me and point out how she is ruining her body and killing babies but at least she is doing something mildly productive with sperm which could've been just wiped on a towel so I could honestly care less and wouldn't her overuse of abortion medication be tragically feministic?


I'm with you.
Early abortion = not a baby, not immoral.
Late abortion = for benefit of mother, not immoral, despite the whole 'stick things in its head and suck the brains out' thing.
Painting with bodily fluids = weird, but not immoral.
Feminism = Not immoral.


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Some points I've thought about since posting: how did she actually artificially inseminate herself and what do her Yale-affording parents think of this and mainly how is this different than Cannibal Corpse releasing an album called Butchered at Birth?

If you don't consider a two week pile of fluids a baby then she isn't necessarily killing a "baby" so it is just the essence of a baby much like the essence of a baby being hung on the CC cover or is that just too ridiculous? Gory metal creates this false environment of blood, gore and dismemberment to be displayed to you for an entire album's length while she is just taking and displaying what they talk about but equally as abstract as them since it isn't really a "baby".

Thinking about this argument, you could justify war with a Bolt Thrower album but then again you couldn't justify a real war, just a war where you shot blanks and used blood capsules.


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metalNESS wrote:
Zad wrote:
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“It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems,” the president of the National Right to Life Committee, Wanda Franz, was quoted as saying on the Web site of FOX News. “She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought.”


Stupid. Abortion is no more immoral than taking a crap.


:rolleyes:

I don't want to start an abortion debate, but you're wrong Zad.


Basically my sentiment. Abortion arguments always lead nowhere, and I don't want to get into one, but I just can't understand the indifference some people show towards purposely killing a baby, especially later in the pregnancy.


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Zad wrote:
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“It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems,” the president of the National Right to Life Committee, Wanda Franz, was quoted as saying on the Web site of FOX News. “She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought.”


Stupid. Abortion is no more immoral than taking a crap.


:rolleyes:

I don't want to start an abortion debate, but you're wrong Zad.


Basically my sentiment. Abortion arguments always lead nowhere, and I don't want to get into one, but I just can't understand the indifference some people show towards purposely killing a baby, especially later in the pregnancy.


Probably agree with the last thing you said. I am pro-choice and think it's essential to remove the stigma from abortion, but then it is not something to be trivialised as some kind of artistic statement either.


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Adam wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Zad wrote:
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“It’s clearly depraved. I think the poor woman has got some major mental problems,” the president of the National Right to Life Committee, Wanda Franz, was quoted as saying on the Web site of FOX News. “She’s a serial killer. This is just a horrible thought.”


Stupid. Abortion is no more immoral than taking a crap.


:rolleyes:

I don't want to start an abortion debate, but you're wrong Zad.


Basically my sentiment. Abortion arguments always lead nowhere, and I don't want to get into one, but I just can't understand the indifference some people show towards purposely killing a baby, especially later in the pregnancy.


Probably agree with the last thing you said. I am pro-choice and think it's essential to remove the stigma from abortion, but then it is not something to be trivialised as some kind of artistic statement either.


I pretty much agree with you on this one. Young women (or indeed any woman of child-bearing age) shouldn't be branded as murdereres .Though I seem to have got slightly less in favour of abortion, and I think there needs to be some justification for it.


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Am really not trying to start a debate, but I think abortion should be mandatory in certain cases. Where the mother's under 18, say. 21, even, if you want to get serious.


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An early abortion is nothing more than a cup of menstrual blood with a dash of semen in it. Both things represent wasted potential and the 'ingredients' are the same so I don't really think there is a big difference. There is of course an emotional issue around miscarriage of a wanted child, but that doesn't seem to be of importance in this particular case. I'll argue that an abortion is no more immoral than a girl having her period and a guy jerking off at the same time. I don't think people here should be so swift in passing moral judgements on the matter. Don't forget that your ideas of ethical standards are not universal. Making an absolute judgement of whether something is morally allowable or not, is a little narrow-minded.


I'm all for abortions. In these times where overpopulation and the following depletion of natural resources have become important issues, it is really counterproductive to force people to have children that they don't want in the first place. It should be done much more. That being said I don't think I would ever go to an exhibition where the main attraction is blood and mucosal tissue from someone's womb. YUCK! I get enough of that at home thank you very much…


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Every sperm is sacred
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THEY HAVE!?


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