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That doesn't mean it's prospering.


I disagree. :)


Well, of course. You eat up In Flames' shit like it was chocolate.


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This was my fav band for about 5 years, i really liked them up to clayman, i dont bash them for trying something different, quite the contrary, i think most bands get boring after 4-5 albums and start to repeat themselves too much.

With change there are 2 things that might happend , you either like the change or not, i didnt in this case but im glad they at least tried to change their sound ( and i was dissapointed with Dark Tranquillity whom after the backlash they sufferend after the excellent Projector went back to the boring same old same old).

This In Flames album is not bad, i think i could give it a 75/100, but it is just same old same old, appart from "The Chosen Pessimist" there arent any boundaries the band is breaking, most songs sound like they could have come from Clayman or Come Clarity.


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I like Dark Tranquility´s same old same old. Every time they release a new record I say bah, it´s just the same old. But I still end up playing it a lot and after a while it get´s more and more solid. Sometimes subtle change is enough if the band is great.

I only listen to Inflames pre-Clayman the rest just annoys me. But alot of people discover the old music after hearing their more recent crap so it´s not all bad. There´s plenty of room for everyone, as long as I get most of it.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
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That doesn't mean it's prospering.


I disagree. :)


Well, of course. You eat up In Flames' shit like it was chocolate.


What does my In Flames fanboyism have to do with the recent years of success of melodic death and hybrid genres using the style? My last comment wasn't even about In Flames.

You may call it a trend and something that will die out, but I'd say melodeath and it's hybrid forms is definitely thriving more than it ever has and shall continue to do so for some time.


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The Evil Dead wrote:
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The Evil Dead wrote:
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That doesn't mean it's prospering.


I disagree. :)


Well, of course. You eat up In Flames' shit like it was chocolate.


What does my In Flames fanboyism have to do with the recent years of success of melodic death and hybrid genres using the style? My last comment wasn't even about In Flames.

You may call it a trend and something that will die out, but I'd say melodeath and it's hybrid forms is definitely thriving more than it ever has and shall continue to do so for some time.


Until the next trend comes around.

Next time be a little less vague, so I don't come off as a complete dumbass.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
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That doesn't mean it's prospering.


I disagree. :)

Well, of course. You eat up In Flames' shit like it was chocolate.

I find it hilarious when people like you talk about trends and mainstream. You follow trends and the mainstream more than the Hot Topic crowd. Moreover, you consistently prove that you don't know shit about music. You're basing whether or not melodic death metal is prospering based on the fucking mainstream! Jesus, man. Not only did God forget to give you a chin, but he skimped on the brain as well.


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Nyarlathotep wrote:
I like Dark Tranquility´s same old same old. Every time they release a new record I say bah, it´s just the same old. But I still end up playing it a lot and after a while it get´s more and more solid. Sometimes subtle change is enough if the band is great.

Nonsense. Dark Tranquillity have rarely gone two albums without changing things up. I suggest a colonic on your ears.


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Afro Lint wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
I like Dark Tranquility´s same old same old. Every time they release a new record I say bah, it´s just the same old. But I still end up playing it a lot and after a while it get´s more and more solid. Sometimes subtle change is enough if the band is great.

Nonsense. Dark Tranquillity have rarely gone two albums without changing things up. I suggest a colonic on your ears.


Dark Tranquillity often have similar ways of constructing songs (Keyboard melody, guitars playing stopped notes on the first and the fifth, for example), but they always manage to do it different enough to be interesting. I'm not familiar with their entire catalogue, but from what I know (mostly later stuff), that's how I see it.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
Afro Lint wrote:
Nyarlathotep wrote:
I like Dark Tranquility´s same old same old. Every time they release a new record I say bah, it´s just the same old. But I still end up playing it a lot and after a while it get´s more and more solid. Sometimes subtle change is enough if the band is great.

Nonsense. Dark Tranquillity have rarely gone two albums without changing things up. I suggest a colonic on your ears.


Dark Tranquillity often have similar ways of constructing songs (Keyboard melody, guitars playing stopped notes on the first and the fifth, for example), but they always manage to do it different enough to be interesting. I'm not familiar with their entire catalogue, but from what I know (mostly later stuff), that's how I see it.

Skydancer and the Of Chaos And Eternal Night EP have more of a slow death metal sound. While the next two, The Gallery and The Mind's I, are faster, more thrashy, and loaded with leads. Projector is the experimental album; lots of atmosphere, lots of clean singing and keyboards, a very different kind of album.

Haven takes some of Projector as influence, but it's also heavier and more groovy. That album bridges Character and Damage Done, two albums that were similar in style: brutal and grooyy melodeath. And Fiction is an album that pretty much channels every album that came before it. There's fast, thrashy songs; there's clean singing with keyboard work; there's those crushing tracks that groove. It literally has a bit of everything they've done.

They've always sounded like the same band, but they've never done more than two albums in the same sort of style. They've changed it up enough to avoid being labeled a band that does the "same old same old." If someone thinks that, they're not listening. There are times when opinion is flat out wrong, no matter what is said (i.e. the ocean is not wet).


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Afro Lint wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
The Evil Dead wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:

That doesn't mean it's prospering.


I disagree. :)

Well, of course. You eat up In Flames' shit like it was chocolate.

I find it hilarious when people like you talk about trends and mainstream. You follow trends and the mainstream more than the Hot Topic crowd. Moreover, you consistently prove that you don't know shit about music. You're basing whether or not melodic death metal is prospering based on the fucking mainstream! Jesus, man. Not only did God forget to give you a chin, but he skimped on the brain as well.


Get laid.


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You Know I love In Flames even today...The album only gets about a 70/100...It def has some Killer songs but they seem tired now...

I love Sleepless Again, Alias, I'm the Highway and Drenched in Fear...oh and Condemned. The leads/solos rule once again.

But It aint no lunar strain through R2R IMO. Soundtrack and CC were boring this is a tad bit better.

I mean I do like your rundown of each Dark Tranquillity album it makes sense..But Still DD,CHAR AND FICT all sound alike....Its good but they need a new sound..I'm sick of the melo death riff poetic lyrics keyboard breakdown back to the riff short solo thingy...


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Get laid.


Do you sometime have something constructive to add or you just like to be an ass ? jeeez. These forums are for constructive discussions of album, not bashing ppl who don't share your opinion.

Just my 2 cents,
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Chris@MetalReviews wrote:
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Get laid.


Do you sometime have something constructive to add or you just like to be an ass ? jeeez. These forums are for constructive discussions of album, not bashing ppl who don't share your opinion.

Just my 2 cents,
Chris


Why, I do have constructive things to add. However, that there was just a rebuttal to someone not being constructive in the least bit.


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TheOctavarius wrote:
Chris@MetalReviews wrote:
TheOctavarius wrote:
Get laid.


Do you sometime have something constructive to add or you just like to be an ass ? jeeez. These forums are for constructive discussions of album, not bashing ppl who don't share your opinion.

Just my 2 cents,
Chris


Why, I do have constructive things to add. However, that there was just a rebuttal to someone not being constructive in the least bit.


Uh huh, what about this then?

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Well, of course. You eat up In Flames' shit like it was chocolate.


I realize you and Ken will never get along, and he took a shot at you, but what did Evil Dead do to deserve that comment? It sure looks to me like he was being constructive, while you were more interested in dropping crass one-liners.

My point again, as I've said to you before, is that you come off like a gigantic prick in threads where you don't like the topic album. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but maybe if you toned it down just a bit, you wouldn't rub so many people the wrong way.


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I mean I do like your rundown of each Dark Tranquillity album it makes sense..But Still DD,CHAR AND FICT all sound alike....Its good but they need a new sound..I'm sick of the melo death riff poetic lyrics keyboard breakdown back to the riff short solo thingy...


While I agree that Character and Fiction are close in sound, Damage Done was totally different. it was a lot more melodic. The guitars were way more flamboyant and catchy, filled with solos and harmonies much like Iron maiden. As for Character it's taking it to a whole new level It's a much heavier album, more thrashy and is more of a mixture of old DT (blast beats for example) with the newer stuff. Fiction is more of Character with more blast beats and a little bit of Projector/heaven sound.


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My apologies. My initial comment wasn't necessarily just to take a shot at the guy.


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I was basing same old same old on Character, Fiction and Damage Done. They are after all their latest records. If you look at other bands the most variation is often in the early records. I also said that their newer records requires more listening before their originality comes out. That is the way it is for most people.

Maybe you mr Afro Lint should pull your head out of your ass, then even you might hear some similarity's between them.


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My point again, as I've said to you before, is that you come off like a gigantic prick in threads where you don't like the topic album. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, but maybe if you toned it down just a bit, you wouldn't rub so many people the wrong way.


I'll tone things down, then. Evil Dead just doesn't strike me as a person who lives outside of trends, but I suppose he didn't deserve that stab...


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