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 Post subject: 'Nyktalgia - Peisithanatos (#4378)'
PostPosted: Mon May 19, 2008 9:23 pm 
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Nyktalgia - Peisithanatos
Depressive Black Metal
Quoted: 86 / 100


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 8:56 am 
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Nice review and quite a nice album :)


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Damn, where the hell did they find that word "Peisithanatos" ?! :blink:

As soon as I read it I was quite sure that it doesn't exist, I mean I'm greek and I don't think I have ever heard that one before. Then I noticed the correct use of "ei" in it so I became curious. I went searching and after a lot of hard work, I managed to locate a definition in a obscure greek blog dealing with definitions and rare words and such.
- πεισιθάνατος : ‘one who persuades for death’

made from "peisi-" meaning one who tries to persuade (=peitho in greek) and "-thanatos" meaning death as you all know.

On the other hand, Nyktalgia (Νυκταλγία or νυχταλγία) made from nykta (=night) and algia (or algos=pain) should exist but I can't seem to find it used anywhere nor as a valid word in a dictionary.

And that concludes our weekly ancient/modern greek lesson kids! :P


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Nice one, I pretty much loved their previous effort. Don't know if I ever posted a review on here, but they fit in the line of good Burzum/Nargaroth-inspired bands.


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Nice one, I pretty much loved their previous effort. Don't know if I ever posted a review on here, but they fit in the line of good Burzum/Nargaroth-inspired bands.


Yeah, I just listened to their debut and I thought it resembles Noenum a lot. Gotta find the new one.


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PostPosted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:52 pm 
I think it's a bit unfair to say it's a mere Varg impression. I may be putting too much into the word "impression", but they are in the same vein yes.


I don't see any ínspiration from nargaroth and his wankery behaviour - that's just ridiculous. Only some burzum in terms of mood and vocals.

I don't understand the reference to Mutiilation's music or LLN, they sound nothing alike - it would be like comparing cows and goats. I think they are more inspired by Abyssic Hate - Suicidal Emotions which was released the year after - four long depressive tracks with some of the same elements, just dirtier production. In the end i find Nyktalia's sound and style to be somewhat unique and i don't mind nyktalgias somewhat clean production.


The album is overall a good album. The second tracks sticks out in a bad way, though, cuz it doesn't fit the album, but i like it for what it is.

I think 86 is a fair rating score. They have improved their skills since the last one, but i like the old one better since it has some rather cool depressive slow melodies filled with atmosphere and emotions.


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I totally agree with you on Nekrolog, it seems a song from a totally different band, I didn't like it... But Nyktalgia and Peisithanatos are amazingly beautiful, thought and I'm on the side that prefers a dirtier production in Depressive Black Metal, in the first album the sound was more ad hoc.

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I don't understand the reference to Mutiilation's music or LLN, they sound nothing alike - it would be like comparing cows and goats. I think they are more inspired by Abyssic Hate - Suicidal Emotions which was released the year after - four long depressive tracks with some of the same elements, just dirtier production. In the end i find Nyktalia's sound and style to be somewhat unique and i don't mind nyktalgias somewhat clean production.


Couldn't agree more. The overall sound of Nyktalgia is more in the vein of Abyssic Hate than Burzum, and definitely I hear no Nargaroth. I understand the reference of LLN, especially because some solos remember me of Peste Noire, but that's all.

The score is fair enough, I'll give it 80. In the end I'm a bit dissapointed, the first album being around 95 for me. On a positive side, Skjeld improved his vocal delivery a lot!


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Misha wrote:
Nice one, I pretty much loved their previous effort. Don't know if I ever posted a review on here, but they fit in the line of good Burzum/Nargaroth-inspired bands.


Yeah, I just listened to their debut and I thought it resembles Noenum a lot. Gotta find the new one.


Noenum, I almost forgot them. 4 years since the last EP... :lame: It's a shame, they were a promising duo.


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Meh, Noenum, Sombre Chemin, Bekhira, Odium Immortalis, Mustan Kuun Lapset, Nachtmystium, Woods Of Infinity, Nyktalgia, Abyssic Hate, Burzum, Seigneur Voland, Mütiilation, Vlad Tepes, Forest, Baptism, it's all the same actually. You have to listen to a lot of black metal to hear the difference. Still, I think they originate from the same bands, that's something different than sounding exactly allike. The ideas are more or less the same.


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 11:11 am 
Misha wrote:
Meh, Noenum, Sombre Chemin, Bekhira, Odium Immortalis, Mustan Kuun Lapset, Nachtmystium, Woods Of Infinity, Nyktalgia, Abyssic Hate, Burzum, Seigneur Voland, Mütiilation, Vlad Tepes, Forest, Baptism, it's all the same actually. You have to listen to a lot of black metal to hear the difference. Still, I think they originate from the same bands, that's something different than sounding exactly allike. The ideas are more or less the same.


I disagree it is all the same. And i disagree with you that they all originates from the same bands, it may somewhat the same bands who sparks the interests and generates new bands later on, but that doesn't mean they "originate" from said same bands - elsewise i can also show evidence that all music originates from Louis Armstrong's - What a wonderful world, including Mozart - he just didn't knew. It's all the same baby!

Besides, Nargaroth is a young band who have had little influence on the overall devolepment in the scene - he's just full of bullshit, and unfortunately some follow and believes every word that he spews out.


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I agree that Nargaroth did not have that much influence (but still a reasonable amount: how many people scream "BM ist Krieg" on a regular basis?). But on the recent german scene, he had a bigger impact.


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You know Misha's back in town when obscure Black Metal gets more attention than the latest Power Metal heroes!


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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:48 pm 
Misha wrote:
I agree that Nargaroth did not have that much influence (but still a reasonable amount: how many people scream "BM ist Krieg" on a regular basis?). But on the recent german scene, he had a bigger impact.


yeah, I know :wink: but a sentence is hardly inspiring in terms of music.
I think the only impact he has had is the sound. Herbstleyd and Black Metal Ist Krieg is the only "good" albums he have made, and BMiK doesn't contain that much of his own material. Besides, i think there's alot of bands who hate him. Wolf from Absurd even broke his nose once at a concert because Kanwulf was exposed as a phony on a german forum and as a last resort he threatened to kill Wolf's son. That is krieg


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IMO Nargaroth's best works are Rasluka Pt 1and 2.
Still "Seven Tears Are Flowing To The River" is the best song he made... But i agree about the fact that he is slightly overworshipped by some people...


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I agree on his best material, and yes, he is overrated, but overration does not take away influence.


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Misha wrote:
Meh, Noenum, Sombre Chemin, Bekhira, Odium Immortalis, Mustan Kuun Lapset, Nachtmystium, Woods Of Infinity, Nyktalgia, Abyssic Hate, Burzum, Seigneur Voland, Mütiilation, Vlad Tepes, Forest, Baptism, it's all the same actually. You have to listen to a lot of black metal to hear the difference. Still, I think they originate from the same bands, that's something different than sounding exactly allike. The ideas are more or less the same.


Those bands do not have their own vein or even style of Black Metal. They're just Black Metal simply put, which is also what they have in common with each other and scores of other bands. It's not like there is some Burzum/Nargaroth inspired BM-club who does something entirely dissimilar to the rest of the scene.

On topic: I'm not particularly enitced by Nyktalgia in general. The last album was decent, but somewhat toothless and easy. It seems like they're trying to 'play it safe' which is not the right approach to making Black Metal. I have yet to hear this one, but from the review it seems like it has some of the same problems (i.e. too clean and polished and 'inspired' by others)


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