Metal Reviews

I heard Leaving All Behind. Pretty good.

Manowar owns DF so much it's laughable. In terms of songwriting, shredding, and attitude.

Songwriting so Die For Metal or Kings Of Metal isn't less cheesy than say Operation Ground And Pound or Heroes For Our Time

Sorry but trying to compare cheesiness of both bands is like comparing kraft mac and cheese with the store generic brand same cheesiness different name.

But I do like Manowar,DF,Rhapsody On Fire and Hammerfall.I like the catchiness and the bombastic sounds of those bands.

Manowar.... LOL their last album is a joke. The guitars were barely recognizable, the songwriting 90% boring... Manowar... they do as if they are the hardest, the truest, but they are the biggest posers in Metal history.

You're forgetting everything else they've done since they started playing. DragonForce have 4 nearly identical albums, Manowar have an extremely strong catalogue, with enough coherence between albums to make sure it's Manowar, and with enough variation to keep you interested.
And as for the latest album, the orchestral bullshit pisses me off too, but if you take all those tracks out, and keep King of Kings, Loki (God of Fire), Blood Brothers, Sleipnir, Sons of Odin and Die For Metal you've got a very strong EP

I didn't say it was less cheesy, I said that it was better. The huge fucking buildup in Battle Hymn, for example, is a whole lot more epic than 7 minutes of guitar masturbation.

Yes Dragonforce sounds indeed identical, but only if you are listening superficial. Because the songs are so long and so fast and so much overloaded, it's hard to get the subtleties. But if you invest time, the structures are getting clearer.

If you are cutting the songs to 3-4 Minutes, decreasing the soli, put more variation into it, make more songs a little bit slower...you will get Hammerfall Part 2. And do we really need a second Hammer Fall?

Just listen to "A Flame For Freedom". It could be 1:1 on a Hammerfall Record. Or the very short Bonus Track "Strike of the Ninja". We have tons of Power Metal Bands with the same songs. But Dragonforce are different and they standing out - and I think it's good, because they bring fresh air to the genre.

To Manowar: King of Kings is maybe the best song they ever wrote, Sleipnir is also good, and Loki too. And if you put this songs on a CD, you'l get a very good single. But in general, Manowar is IMO toooo stereotypical. Too much posing, too less good music.

How can one "bring fresh air to the genre" by writing the same album over and over again?

Because it is not the same album and the style is much more extreme compared to "normal" Power Metal albums.

Extreme doesn't equate with better.
And as for Manowar, songs like Hail and Kill, Battle Hymn, Blood of the King, Metal Warriors, Kings of Metal, Black Wind Fire And Steel all pwn the entire DF discography on their own.

From the cheesiness of the lyrics, they doesn't take much (not for nothing there are Manowar lyrics generator on the web - ( hail, power, kill, sword... )) but Manowar is IMO just standard metal. Not very heavy, not very special. I don't understand the legions of their fans. DF just makes more fun. And to say it with the words of DF: Midtempo is gay.

What does cheesiness have to do with the quality of the music, for fuck's sake?? At least Manowar know how to build up and use dynamics, know how to play various song types, etc etc.

The difference between Dragonforce and Manowar is, that 1 DF Song has more variety than a complete Manowar album. And if you compare all Manowar albums, they also sounds very similar - like all DF songs of one album. BUT in the detail, they are very varied.

What the fuck are you smoking??? 1 DF song, more variety than a Manowar album? Fuck off.

Seriously. I'm a DF fan and even I know that's a pretty ridiculous statement.

It depends if you are a fan of Manowar or not.

I'd like some of the shit you're smoking right now.

Just a symbolic allegory to show why I think that DF is better. And compared to the established Power Metal oldtimers, DF are playing circles around them.

Have you ever listened to any of Karl Logan's playing?? For fuck's sake, not only is the guy fast as hell, he understands the instrument a whole lot better than Totman or Li ever will. DF play circles around Manowar? Fuck off. Joey DeMaio is at your window with a hammer to bash your brains in.

Manowar are just lame compared to DF. DF is Hammerfall on Speed, and also HF are way better than Manowar.

BTW. it's hard to hear Karl Logan, because Joey DeMaios Bass is over all.