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Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


that's because of 'nigger' though. "ban racism? stop being such a ew" doesnt sound bad


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Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


that's because of 'nigger' though. "ban racism? stop being such a ew" doesnt sound bad


Fine; but is there such a difference between that and 'faggot'? That one is shocking and one isn't is only because of what society tells us, and that you're more likely to hear faggot, since hating on the gays is still more socially acceptable than hating black people. If life were consistent, both words would be equally banned.


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Zad wrote:
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Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


Are you on crack?

Look, it's mr "racism and sexism are NOT equal" come to tell us how using the word "gay" as a perjorative is equivalent to calling someone a "nigger-lover"


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rio wrote:
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Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


Are you on crack?

Look, it's mr "racism and sexism are NOT equal" come to tell us how using the word "gay" as a perjorative is equivalent to calling someone a "nigger-lover"


Racism and sexism aren't equal. Racism and homophobia are. Comparing things like this is silly, but there is a definable order to things, isn't there?


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Zad wrote:
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Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


Are you on crack?

Look, it's mr "racism and sexism are NOT equal" come to tell us how using the word "gay" as a perjorative is equivalent to calling someone a "nigger-lover"


Racism and sexism aren't equal. Racism and homophobia are. Comparing things like this is silly, but there is a definable order to things, isn't there?


Er, no there isn't.

So homophobia is worse than sexism, but approximately equal to racism. How enlightening.

Some of us can hate all of these things equally but still make fun of those that want to see words banned on an internet forum.


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Banning is overrated. Do you remember how annoying Pete (and probably even me) was at the beginning? Look at him now. Kick ass.

There is time for change. Banning doesn't allow that.


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rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
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Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


Are you on crack?

Look, it's mr "racism and sexism are NOT equal" come to tell us how using the word "gay" as a perjorative is equivalent to calling someone a "nigger-lover"


Racism and sexism aren't equal. Racism and homophobia are. Comparing things like this is silly, but there is a definable order to things, isn't there?


Er, no there isn't.

So homophobia is worse than sexism, but approximately equal to racism. How enlightening.

Some of us can hate all of these things equally but still make fun of those that want to see words banned on an internet forum.


Of course there is! Criticising women for female behaviour v criticising blacks/gays for 'typically' black/gay behaviour - there's a clear difference.

And how lovely for you. Ultimately, which of these appear on a forum about Metal doesn't matter that much, but saying things like you did before, that people are only racist because it's forbidden, is ridiculous. Ideally, yes, sexism would be banned too, but it's even more commonplace in society than homophobia is - combating it is beyond even us.

This isn't Workers United, this is Metal Reviews - racism is not allowed, homophobia is impossible to police although it should be equally outlawed, and feel free to be sexist if you don't mind other people thinking ill of you. Such is teh internets.


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Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


Are you on crack?

Look, it's mr "racism and sexism are NOT equal" come to tell us how using the word "gay" as a perjorative is equivalent to calling someone a "nigger-lover"


Racism and sexism aren't equal. Racism and homophobia are. Comparing things like this is silly, but there is a definable order to things, isn't there?


Er, no there isn't.

So homophobia is worse than sexism, but approximately equal to racism. How enlightening.

Some of us can hate all of these things equally but still make fun of those that want to see words banned on an internet forum.


Of course there is! Criticising women for female behaviour v criticising blacks/gays for 'typically' black/gay behaviour - there's a clear difference.

And how lovely for you. Ultimately, which of these appear on a forum about Metal doesn't matter that much, but saying things like you did before, that people are only racist because it's forbidden, is ridiculous. Ideally, yes, sexism would be banned too, but it's even more commonplace in society than homophobia is - combating it is beyond even us.

This isn't Workers United, this is Metal Reviews - racism is not allowed, homophobia is impossible to police although it should be equally outlawed, and feel free to be sexist if you don't mind other people thinking ill of you. Such is teh internets.


First paragraph: Then I can only surmise that you are clueless.

Secondly: If you're going to complain about something I said, make sure you actually understand what I said.

Third paragraph: Metal reviews has an inconsistent policy, so what? that's part of the reason I said I didn't feel anything, including racism, should be banned here.


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rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Banning racism? that's a nigger-loving idea


Imagine the outcry.


Are you on crack?

Look, it's mr "racism and sexism are NOT equal" come to tell us how using the word "gay" as a perjorative is equivalent to calling someone a "nigger-lover"


Racism and sexism aren't equal. Racism and homophobia are. Comparing things like this is silly, but there is a definable order to things, isn't there?


Er, no there isn't.

So homophobia is worse than sexism, but approximately equal to racism. How enlightening.

Some of us can hate all of these things equally but still make fun of those that want to see words banned on an internet forum.


Of course there is! Criticising women for female behaviour v criticising blacks/gays for 'typically' black/gay behaviour - there's a clear difference.

And how lovely for you. Ultimately, which of these appear on a forum about Metal doesn't matter that much, but saying things like you did before, that people are only racist because it's forbidden, is ridiculous. Ideally, yes, sexism would be banned too, but it's even more commonplace in society than homophobia is - combating it is beyond even us.

This isn't Workers United, this is Metal Reviews - racism is not allowed, homophobia is impossible to police although it should be equally outlawed, and feel free to be sexist if you don't mind other people thinking ill of you. Such is teh internets.


First paragraph: Then I can only surmise that you are clueless.

Secondly: If you're going to complain about something I said, make sure you actually understand what I said.

Third paragraph: Metal reviews has an inconsistent policy, so what? that's part of the reason I said I didn't feel anything, including racism, should be banned here.


Yeah, this is circular, so I won't bother repeating myself. If you feel that strongly, then either work against it by policing the forums for all offensive language, or don't bother - you're a mod too, after all.


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Actually the point was I don't feel strongly about which language is used...

Circular my ass, you are just rying to weasel out of tying yourself in knots; actually, I find the whole attempt to rank "isms" according to how bad you think they are is more bothersome to me in some ways than a lot of things V or anybody else might say about black people.

In sum, if you don't want to look like a massive hypocrite stop getting on your high horse about people using the word "gay".


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I wouldn't ban you or anyone else for being homophobic, but I would ban you since you're just an asshole with nothing to contribute to this forum


You wish you could. Do you really think your opinion on me is affecting me in anyway? What do you have to more to contribute to this forum than me or anyone else? Fag.


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Actually the point was I don't feel strongly about which language is used...

Circular my ass, you are just rying to weasel out of tying yourself in knots; actually, I find the whole attempt to rank "isms" according to how bad you think they are is more bothersome to me in some ways than a lot of things V or anybody else might say about black people.

In sum, if you don't want to look like a massive hypocrite stop getting on your high horse about people using the word "gay".


Yeah, we got that. :rolleyes:

Tying myself in knots? How? And how is saying that racism is worse than sexism more bothersome than actual racism itself? I'm speaking here as a representative of the site, as I inferred before: ideally, all -isms would be banned, but since some are clearly worse than others ('nigger' worse than 'woman', obviously, if you're at all intelligent) then it depends. Massive hypocrite? Realist, more like. Fine, things aren't perfect, but they're the next step down. You're saying perfection cannot be achieved, therefore allow everything. Which is insane.

All I'm saying is, ideally, since we don't like people using racist language, they shouldn't use homophobic language. Why do you have a problem with this?


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Banning people for saying this or that is gay or "those guys look like fags", etc. would be the most pussified thing since Wham!
When did this place turn into a a (decaffeinated) peppermint tea sipping sewing circle?

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Banning people for saying this or that is gay or "those guys look like fags", etc. would be the most pussified thing since Wham!
When did this place turn into a a (decaffeinated) peppermint tea sipping sewing circle?


Since you reappeared.


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Zad wrote:
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Banning people for saying this or that is gay or "those guys look like fags", etc. would be the most pussified thing since Wham!
When did this place turn into a a (decaffeinated) peppermint tea sipping sewing circle?


Since you reappeared.


Obviously not.
But keep trying.
Stop being such a pussy.

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Looks like you're all alone in this latest fiasco, Zad.
Rio was spot on.
Censorship sucks.

Saying "that's gay" or whatta fag!" isn't necssarily "homophobic" a phrase which is pretty fucking gay to begin with.
They are just expressions, like saying that sucks or that guys an asshole, or that asshole bears a striking resmblance to a dripping fly-blown moose twat quivering with fear, and so on...

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cry of the banshee wrote:
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Banning people for saying this or that is gay or "those guys look like fags", etc. would be the most pussified thing since Wham!
When did this place turn into a a (decaffeinated) peppermint tea sipping sewing circle?


Since you reappeared.


Obviously not.
But keep trying.
Stop being such a pussy.


Whatever. Gee, I'm sorry that the site has gone downhill since you stopped reviewing for it and that the forum is now gay-friendly, but heck, that's the way it goes. Perhaps if you responded to more threads than the ones I post in, things might be different, but alas, until that day comes we'll just keep bumbling ahead, making it through sheer willpower.

donate@metalreviews.com, that is all.


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Zad wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
Zad wrote:
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Banning people for saying this or that is gay or "those guys look like fags", etc. would be the most pussified thing since Wham!
When did this place turn into a a (decaffeinated) peppermint tea sipping sewing circle?


Since you reappeared.


Obviously not.
But keep trying.
Stop being such a pussy.


Whatever. Gee, I'm sorry that the site has gone downhill since you stopped reviewing for it and that the forum is now gay-friendly, but heck, that's the way it goes. Perhaps if you responded to more threads than the ones I post in, things might be different, but alas, until that day comes we'll just keep bumbling ahead, making it through sheer willpower.

donate@metalreviews.com, that is all.





Well, it's about freeaking time somebody acknowledged the fact that my departure was instrumental in this sites downturn.

Christ, man, it's a fucking WEB SITE, if you take all of... this internet shenanigans seriously, I feel bad for you.
Seriously, a WEB SITE.
And its not as if anybody is saying nigger, this, spic that, or kill faggots, jews, etc. is it?
This whole thread is so pointlessly useless.

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 Post subject: Re: can we please ban homophobia
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i want to get rid of wsx26

That would be nice indeed.


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dude, storm in a glass of water, or something. seriously.

what next, no swearing? the ban on NSBM is bad enough. also it's not like some band is going to come down here to Helheim (where most of the "gay" and "fag" is thrown around) and think "oh these forumites are homophobic, we think we'll forego the promotion of our album and not let it be reviewed here").

even the racism ban i disagree with. i don't like people using certain terms, but hey. fact is 99% of the people here control themselves without any mod having to warn them.

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