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HAH!!! FINALLY a Brit who admits they were arseholes before this! Cheer up Zad, it's just me, a bastard of one of your former colonies speaking.

Anyway about the Holocaust, I think it did happen. But what kinda annoys me is that people are still sympathizing on the Jews for something that happened about 70 years ago. Japanese in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were all wiped out and the survivors bore the banes of diseases till today but nobody seems to be sympathizing them. Millions of Bosnian-Muslims were wiped out during the Serb-Bosnia war in the 90's but it's all nearly forgotten now. I'm just wondering why we keep reminding ourselves of the Holocaust when many other equally-bad tragedies also took place, but just got washed down through time. I'm not anti-Jew or anything, but I feel it's high-time everyone just moved on. History is history, just don't let it repeat, that's all.

Speaking about Jews, I'm really stuck in the middle here in Malaysia. Malaysia as you all know is a Muslim country, and is very much anti-Jew. I seriously don't give a fuck about what they say about the Jews because hey, they've done me no wrong so far. But the way the anti-Jew propaganda is hyped up over here, it's just over-board. Government officials burning the Israeli flag...that's crap I tell you. Just because Palestinians are dying, there's even an anti-American boycott that's being practised over here. McDonald's was hit pretty bad thanks to this. But if you asked me, these people are seeing things from one point of view only. Yes, a lot of Palestinians died because of the Israeli invasion, but don't tell me there were no Israelis who died from the countless Hamas' bombings? Stupid, stupid.

Shit, I think I ran off topic but what the heck.

That's exactly why the holocaust is still considered so important. Anti-semitism is still very present and dangerous.

I thought that the First Amendment in America allows anyone to say what they want. Am I wrong?

As for the Hiroshima victims, to be honest it is sad but it was necessary, otherwise America would have suffered very high casualties if they tried to take mainland Japan by force. You can't blame the government for wanting to end the war quicker.

As far as I've understood, Japan had already surrendered and the US dropped the nukes to test them out on a civilian populace. Not to call Truman out, or anything.

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Was the second one also necessary?

Sorry, but you are. There are restrictions on free speech in the American constitution, which cover hate speech, certain pornographic speech (ie, involving child porn), and speech that incites danger (the most popular example= yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre. Of course, then there are also slander and libel restrictions, treason restrictions, and many more I'm not going over. There is no such thing as absolute free speech in America or anywhere in the world.

Though you might disagree with some of these restrictions, I'd say they're pretty necessary, and since America and Canada and England and others haven't turned into authoritarian death traps where all free speech is banned, I think the slippery slope argument is being overplayed.

Aw I want to hear what they teach you in Britland about Hiroshima.

Over here, we're taught it was necessary and how we did it reluctantly and had to show those uncivilized monkeys the error in their ways.

I don't think anything can justify the creation let alone use of the most terrible weapon of all time.

Hiroshima got hit on 6 Aug 1945 and Nagasaki on 9 Aug 1945. The Japs only surrendered on 15 Aug 1945, a result of the bombings.

But still, millions died.

Wow, that's a big word to use on a bunch of people who were smarter than any of their rivals.

FUN FACT: Japan invaded Malaya (before we were known as Malaysia) through Thailand, and would you guess their mode of transport? Fuckin bicycles. The rode from Indo-China all the way down south through Thailand and they conquered the whole country riding their god-damned Raleighs and even the heavily armored forts (which were controlled by the Brits) couldn't hold them back. And down south they rode where they took over the last British colony, Singapore. Singapore was the hardest battle they fought against the British, but they still won it. And yes, they were still on their bicycles, when the Brits had warships and heavy(er?) artillery.

Their rise to power wasn't much about the technology involved, it was pure strategy. And of course, it went to show how dumb and fragile the British were at that time.

I respect the Japs a lot, for their technological innovations, martial arts, certain manga, etc. And though their whole 'honour' system is pretty fucked up, it's great how they never had the religious brain death that the West had historically/to this day.

They just replaced it with tentacle porn, racism, and upskirt photography.

Racism?

Btw, everything else is fine with me

Eh, they were quite racist bastards themselves. They hated the Chinese like fuck. When they were ruling Malaya, the Chinese bore the brunt of their wrath. An Indian or Malay guy could walk down the street normally back then but a Chinese had to be careful. They had a lot of fun beheading the Chinese over here.

My granddad told me that when they were in power, everyone in Malaya had to learn Japanese. When an Indian or Malay made a mistake in their grammar etc, the Japs just gave them tight slaps. If a Chinese made such mistakes...their next of kin had to collect their rolling heads.

What I heard is that the US did ask them to surrender and they replied in Japanese saying "Mukatso" or something like that. That word had two meanings. One is "Give us some time" and the other means, "Go to hell." The US took it to be the latter and bombed them. Any truth to this?

Going through this entire thread made me realize how poor my knowledge of certain things in history is.

If using white phosphorus on civilians is a war crime, then nuking civilians should definately be. I'm not saying the Japanese weren't ruthless mofos, not saying that a ground invasion wouldn't have cost many American lives... just that nuclear weapons are an abomination.

Funny how everyone who seems to be pro-Nukey Japan (not here, just generally) usually seems to follow it up with 'Yeah! and we should nuke the middle east!'

We'll we've had 60 years to research the effects of dropping a nuclear bomb. Not only is the mortality rate of doing such a thing astoundingly high, but the environmental costs are insurmountable as well. Not too mention mutations, etc. It's really not worth it in the long run.

Plus we turned the Japanese into schoolgirl panty obsessed weirdos.

TBH, as racist as it may seem/is, I wouldn't shed a tear over the Middle East or any Arabic country being nuked, with the exception of Turkey, Dubai and any other 'Westernized' nation. Simply because the vast majority of Arabs are fundamentalists, and though I'm not saying they're all terrorists, they're fanatical enough that they would blow themselves up if stirred by someone who could speak well enough to convince them.

I mean seriously, for example in high school there was an Arab student who seems alright, but if you make any sort of religious joke he would get all serious and stuff, saying shit like 'don't say these things.' And this was just a teenager, of course.