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 Post subject: Ozzy sues Iommi
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2009 7:43 am 
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Go figure.

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This reeks of Sharon...


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I wouldn't hesitate to doubt that that fat bitch is using Ozzy as a puppet yet again to carry out another cash-grabbing scheme. As if she didn't already have enough diamond necklaces.


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He kinda has a point... :ph34r:


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He kinda has a point... :ph34r:


Yes, but as Iommi said, didn't Butler, Ward and Osbourne relinquish all claims to the name in the 80s?

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ozzy should stick to half-baked attempts at reality shows with that used up brain of his and let Iommi keep the spirit of Sabbath alive. Fuck ozzy


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It's sad, but true... Iommi is what is keeping Sabbath alive... it was always Iommi and Butler.
I lost all respect for Ozzy the day he went on MTV and showed his ass to the public... any mystique, and metal credibility, any larger-than-life-ness the man had aqcuired over the years, all gone; what we saw was a doddering palsified old man with brain damage mumbling about his dogs crapping on the rug.
Not releasing an album worthy of being a coaster for your coffee cup in, what's it been, 20 years, is one thing, but that was inexcusable.


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I heard that this has to do with a merchandising suit Iommi is filing against Live Nation. If Ozzy wins this suit and gets right to the name then he will get a cut of what Iommi wins from Live Nation.


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Goat wrote:
He kinda has a point... :ph34r:


Ozzy wanting 50/50 is fucking ridiculous. He wasn't in the band when it first started, and he was only in it until '79, after which there were, what, 3 other singers? He doesn't own the Black Sabbath name, and it's ridiculously arrogant of him to think that he does.


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He kinda has a point... :ph34r:


Ozzy wanting 50/50 is fucking ridiculous. He wasn't in the band when it first started, and he was only in it until '79, after which there were, what, 3 other singers? He doesn't own the Black Sabbath name, and it's ridiculously arrogant of him to think that he does.


Good point.


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4 other singers to be exact.


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Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


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Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


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Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


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Goat wrote:
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Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


Maybe not Mustaine or Mcgovney, but any Metallica fanboy claims that Cliff was and still is the best bass player ever. So according to your logic, his family should get some money no?


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


Maybe not Mustaine or Mcgovney, but any Metallica fanboy claims that Cliff was and still is the best bass player ever. So according to your logic, his family should get some money no?


Erm, no. Black Sabbath have sold a lotta records due to Ozzy's fame, something you can't say for Burton and Metallica.


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Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


Maybe not Mustaine or Mcgovney, but any Metallica fanboy claims that Cliff was and still is the best bass player ever. So according to your logic, his family should get some money no?


Erm, no. Black Sabbath have sold a lotta records due to Ozzy's fame, something you can't say for Burton and Metallica.


Fine, be that way.

What about Halford and Priest? I know Priest wasn't the most popular band in the 90's, but they must of made some money. Should he not be entitled to some of it?


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


Maybe not Mustaine or Mcgovney, but any Metallica fanboy claims that Cliff was and still is the best bass player ever. So according to your logic, his family should get some money no?


Erm, no. Black Sabbath have sold a lotta records due to Ozzy's fame, something you can't say for Burton and Metallica.


Fine, be that way.

What about Halford and Priest? I know Priest wasn't the most popular band in the 90's, but they must of made some money. Should he not be entitled to some of it?


Maybe he did, I don't know enough about it. I was only ever arguing from what I know, I'm sure each case is different. Chances are, of course, that Ozzy's after the H&H reunion cash, but he may have a point. Not that he's 100% right, I never meant that.


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Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


Maybe not Mustaine or Mcgovney, but any Metallica fanboy claims that Cliff was and still is the best bass player ever. So according to your logic, his family should get some money no?


Erm, no. Black Sabbath have sold a lotta records due to Ozzy's fame, something you can't say for Burton and Metallica.


Fine, be that way.

What about Halford and Priest? I know Priest wasn't the most popular band in the 90's, but they must of made some money. Should he not be entitled to some of it?


Maybe he did, I don't know enough about it. I was only ever arguing from what I know, I'm sure each case is different. Chances are, of course, that Ozzy's after the H&H reunion cash, but he may have a point. Not that he's 100% right, I never meant that.


He may be entitled to Sabbath cash, but should be nowhere near the money they made with Heaven and Hell. That is just wrong.


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DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
DevotedWalnut wrote:
Goat wrote:
Oh, clearly I didn't mean that Ozzy should get 50%, but that he should get, like, 15% or whatever with everyone else.


Should Mustaine or Mcgovney (sp?) get 15% of Metallicas money? Or Burtons family?


Ah, but they weren't the reason for the band's success, were they?


Maybe not Mustaine or Mcgovney, but any Metallica fanboy claims that Cliff was and still is the best bass player ever. So according to your logic, his family should get some money no?


Erm, no. Black Sabbath have sold a lotta records due to Ozzy's fame, something you can't say for Burton and Metallica.


Fine, be that way.

What about Halford and Priest? I know Priest wasn't the most popular band in the 90's, but they must of made some money. Should he not be entitled to some of it?


Maybe he did, I don't know enough about it. I was only ever arguing from what I know, I'm sure each case is different. Chances are, of course, that Ozzy's after the H&H reunion cash, but he may have a point. Not that he's 100% right, I never meant that.


He may be entitled to Sabbath cash, but should be nowhere near the money they made with Heaven and Hell. That is just wrong.
Any lawyer who would argue that Ozzy deserves a cut of H&H deserves their balls cut off. Hard with a dull box cutter.


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