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Ok, I thought I'd post the first two short stories I've ever written for some feedback. Obviously, since they're my first, they'll be crap, but I'd like to know specifically which elements to focus on improving (characterization, descriptions, etc). Anyway, enjoy, and thanks for any comments.




Charley learns to drive.

Charley was learning how to drive. He didn’t know why he was learning how to drive, or what where he was going to go once he had learned, but Giovanna had insisted. How can a man in New York, fucking New York, not know how to drive? “Easy, honey, we take the subways. We don’t have a shitload of tunnels going beneath this city, like so many rabbit holes for lost lovers and wandering souls, like worms tunnelling through our big rotten apple, without making something out of it for the normal people.” Normal people, he wondered as soon as answering. Who the fuck are normal people? Am I normal? I wish I were normal. As always, his musings came to the same conclusion.
NORMAL PEOPLE DON’T THINK
They don’t think; they just live. They breathe, eat, shit, sleep, fuck, and fight, and not necessarily in that order, without ever knowing why the hell they do it or how they’re even able to. “Baby, where the hell am I gonna drive? The streets are jammed with cabs and all the concrete looks the same everywhere.” “You’ll be able to take me out. You can take me from my parents whenever you want.”
Giovanna had the answer for everything, even though her answers always came from warped perceptions of reality. Her parents, for example, were either five-and-a-half feet underground or somewhere in Mexico with clogged nostrils. Charley didn’t know why the fuck she kept mentioning her parents. Maybe they still haunted her. He didn’t know. All he knew was that Giovanna deserved better than the cocaine addicts she lived with. Hm, maybe that was the connection. Cocaine? Or deserving better? It didn’t matter. He was learning to drive for her, because he wanted to be able to do things FOR her, not just TO her. She was an Italian beauty who didn’t speak a drop of the language, but who still writhed in pleasure (or was it pain? Charley didn’t know, but then, Charley kept himself from knowing a lot of things) when he recited Dante or Pascoli. Charley, he preferred his Shakespeare in the rare moments of both sobriety and lucidity, and for the rest he cried tears of love, admiration and jealousy for men like Bukowski and Orwell, men who despite great strength were still nothing more than an eloquent mirror for the reflections of society that they were smart enough to see. None of that meaningless romantic shit for Charley. Language for the sake of language gets boring very quickly. Words should mean something. They should be real, gritty, dirty. You should be able to taste the shit when you roll the words around in your mouth. And all the while, Charley wished he were real, gritty and dirty.
He wasn’t a solipsist, but he felt incomplete until he managed to project himself upon something and get a reflection of himself. Are we only as real as other people see us to be? Bullshit, he answered himself quickly, before abandoning a potentially dangerously stimulating line of thought. NORMAL PEOPLE DON’T THINK. That’s just for the freaks and the philosophers. The artists of the brain. He wondered how he could live in New York and still have to search so hard for someone to project himself onto. People walked around in circles all day like fucking chickens looking for their heads. Charley blamed everything from the TV to the President. Or maybe that wasn’t so much of a difference. The President might very well be the same thing as the TV. I’ve never seen him, how do I know?
But that was too much for Charley. Of course the President was real, what bullshit was this? Lucky Charley had never heard of Descartes. He’d have ran around the Bronx until nightfall asking people if they could see him until he’d have gotten knifed by some asshole who couldn’t even drive a car. Yeah, the car. That’ll help. Lemme get back into the car.
He got into the car. Now what? Placebo? Or the Killers? He was jealous of their angst. He wished he knew what pissed him off, what it was called, how to define it. Fuck Wilde, defining isn’t limiting. It’s enabling. Can’t talk about something without defining. But don’t fuck Wilde, he was probably joking when he said that anyway. What’s on the radio? Some kid whining about his parents. Fuck that, kid; you don’t know how good you’ve got it. Then he looked in the rear-view mirror and noticed a big-ass pimple on his nose. Right there on the fucking tip. Jesus, I haven’t had shit like that since I was 16. He turned on the news. Some crazy Muslim blew himself up in Baghdad. Some sick old fuck married a 12 year old. Tune in in an hour for our report on oil prices. Go down the rabbit hole with our new program. Close your eyes and let it all drift away.
Turning out of his parking lot, Charley struggled with the gears as he stared at the empty space where the twin towers used to be. And he couldn’t remember what it meant. And he struggled, and struggled, and tried to remember what he was fighting for, how he was fighting, and what it actually meant to fight, and he couldn’t, and birds flew through the air, and the radio chattered on, and he couldn’t remember. Or maybe he never knew in the first place. Maybe that was the trick. Maybe the car will help. Or maybe I need to go throw more of myself at Giovanna. Or maybe I can flush whatever’s blocking my memory with a sixpack.

Maybe.

Or maybe I just don’t think. I want to be normal, don’t I?


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Morning (working title)


It’s always hard to know when to start a story. Waking up, I guess, would be ideal. While not necessarily always chronologically classifiable as “morning”, it still serves as an accouchement of life. From the moment when I drag my carcass, still bloated from last night’s drowning, out from beneath the sweat-soaked covers and into the bathroom, that’s when life begins. At least, that’s when we like to think our life begins. As if yesterday’s bullshit could be erased by something as ephemeral as sleeping. All we do when we sleep is die a little, I guess that’s why waking up is such a chore.
“What, this crap again? Fuck, I thought I was finished with it.”
“Nope, sorry. Come on, gotta be alive again.”
“Fuck off.”
And so we hit the snooze.
Me, I don’t like the snooze. It’s too much of a tease. I hate being teased. I want to know what’s going on, what I’m getting and what I’m not getting. I figure if I want to be tortured by the immediate vicinity of a state of bliss, I’ll go to the park with my guitar and serenade the happy couples. Those goddamm stuck up sons of bitches. It’s impossible to look at them without imagining just how he’s going to fuck her over somehow. That guy looks like a moron, he probably beats her when she doesn’t blow him. And she can forget about getting tongued, too. That one over there looks like a subtler little jackoff. Pathetic wimp probably tortures her with his evil fucking mind to make up for his own tortured soul. Mind you, it’s a statistical impossibility that none of these guys are little shits. When almost every single person I come across each day tries to rape me in some way or another, it would be naïve to think that these guys are good partners.
So far so good. I’m not even clean yet and I’ve already thought myself into a depression. Let me hit the shower and see if I can get symbolism to work for me today. Bathrooms are full of symbolism. You see yourself in the mirror. You can try and wash away some of the filth in the shower. And you can throw your shit away in what sometimes feels like the only woman I have. Beautiful, smooth porcelain skin. Never complains, never leaves. She just sits there and takes all my shit. No one else takes my shit. I get fucked over for trying to give other people my shit. Shame, they could learn so much from it. Mine stinks a lot better than theirs does. People seem to think that because it’s all shit, it’s all the same. It’s important to remember that Plato never applied his abstract to the negatives. There is no “shit of shits” to set the standard for shittiness. Just a lot of different shit, each worth only what it is on its own. And my shit is worth a lot more than most people’s. After all, I’m always THINKING, always DIGESTING. I hate my porcelain woman. I want a woman who will make me taste my own shit before giving it to someone else.
So there you have it. Misandry and misogyny, one after the other, before I even have the chance to squeeze the pus from the little bumps in my face. I take advantage of this, though. It’s like I’m pushing out my intense anger and frustration, my misanthropy, my violence, my despair. All out, in a flow of fat, pus and blood, down the drain beneath the mirror that just stares at me, with a big red nose from all the squeezing and pinching. I ravaged my skin, and now I’m ready to join the human race. I have to leave all my reactions behind me. Most people are too stupid and self-absorbed to realize what I’m like no matter what I say to them, but some of them might figure out that I’m not normal. It wouldn’t take much, just a small, insignificant gesture that encompasses just enough of stupidity and ignorant malice to set me off and force me to break through my walls of social propriety into what I actually think.
“Did you hear about Isabella hooking up with the teacher?”
“Mhm”
“She’s such a slut, I can’t believe it. Can you?” This sorry excuse for a human being is circling her own drain and doesn’t even have the decency to do it alone. “I think you’re a jealous bitch who’s too disgusted with her own body to let anyone touch it, let alone give you a good fucking, so you try to make everyone else look and feel dirty about who they fuck. Well, fuck you and fuck off.”
It was shocking that a fellow human being would refuse to partake in the crucifixion and slandering of a third member of our species. Solidarity against our own. That’s teamwork and separatism working together beautifully, if you ask me. Such is the absurdity of our world. And I haven’t even had my lunch yet.

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Great, until you mentioned The Killers. :P Second one was good, keep writing!


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Great, until you mentioned The Killers. :P Second one was good, keep writing!


The Killers are amazing. But thanks :P Nothing specific to point out, though? Nothing?

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Well. I liked how the first threw me once I realised it was set now, I'm too used to stories set in New York being from the 70s or so, guess my taste in films, hehe. I liked the stream-of-consciousness style of the second, if I had to guess I'd say that both were written after encounters similar to the stories in each - foreign girl writhing, bitching about slutty girl, etc - OR that you wrote it like that deliberately for the reader to draw that. I'll post more thoughts once I've read them again in a couple of hours.


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Well. I liked how the first threw me once I realised it was set now, I'm too used to stories set in New York being from the 70s or so, guess my taste in films, hehe. I liked the stream-of-consciousness style of the second, if I had to guess I'd say that both were written after encounters similar to the stories in each - foreign girl writhing, bitching about slutty girl, etc - OR that you wrote it like that deliberately for the reader to draw that. I'll post more thoughts once I've read them again in a couple of hours.


I initially intended it to be set in the 70s, but then realized I could neither relate nor describe the atmosphere successfully. The only angst I really know is the modern climate. And yes, they're definitely influenced by my own experiences. Looking forward to more feedback, it's a great help!

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:omfg:

This semester I start teaching :omfg:

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Only seminars, however, as I am still a student myself....

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This module introduces students to key concepts and theories in the sociology of work and organizations. Students will learn about key ideas from the founding fathers (Durkheim, Marx and Weber) of sociology as well as more recent theoretical approaches to understanding work and organizations. The course seeks to both familiarize the students with some of the most influential sociological theories and to evaluate their use of as conceptual tools for the analysis of contemporary change in work and organizations.

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The syllabus will explore both the founding theorists in the Sociology of Work (Marx, Weber and Durkheim) and contemporary developments in the sociology of work (labour process theory, post structuralism, feminism), with lectures devoted to each topic.


:D

Was terrified there would be nothing I knew about or was interested in on the syllabus...


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rio wrote:
:omfg:

This semester I start teaching :omfg:

:omfg:

Only seminars, however, as I am still a student myself....

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This module introduces students to key concepts and theories in the sociology of work and organizations. Students will learn about key ideas from the founding fathers (Durkheim, Marx and Weber) of sociology as well as more recent theoretical approaches to understanding work and organizations. The course seeks to both familiarize the students with some of the most influential sociological theories and to evaluate their use of as conceptual tools for the analysis of contemporary change in work and organizations.

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The syllabus will explore both the founding theorists in the Sociology of Work (Marx, Weber and Durkheim) and contemporary developments in the sociology of work (labour process theory, post structuralism, feminism), with lectures devoted to each topic.


:D

Was terrified there would be nothing I knew about or was interested in on the syllabus...
High five! I can't wait till I do that. Gosh I'm excited for you, guy.


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Thanks :D

Yeah, it's really cool but when I think about it I realise I'm actually terrified...


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Better do some research Charlesy; rent this.


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Anyone know anything about equitable estoppel, Locke and Hobbes' social contractual theories or the the extent to which a law in Europe against mulsim veils in public schools would conform with international law?

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Anyone know anything about equitable estoppel, Locke and Hobbes' social contractual theories or the the extent to which a law in Europe against mulsim veils in public schools would conform with international law?

:sad:


As to the last, France has been doing that for a long time and AFAIK no international lawyers have hassled them about it. So have some other European states, I believe, as well as Turkey (?).

Erm, well Hobbes believed that the natural life of human beings was inevitably "nasty, brutish and short". He viewed society as simply a collection of egoistic individuals who would thieve and kill and maim eachother in their own individual pursuit of greater resources. Therefore, a strong state was required to maintain the existence of society as a coherent entity. So I guess you would see Hobbes' thought as inherently very authoritarian.

Locke is very different, though. I have never really read him and he's not really my area, but he was a utilitarian philosopher that believed in individual freedoms that should only stop at the point where you directly start to harm other people. Re: the "social contract", I guess you would see Locke as presenting a relatively libertarian and individualistic philosophy, in contrast to, say, Rousseau, who developed the idea of the "collective will". i.e. there is some collectively-derived force capable of governing society that individuals must ultimately acquiesce to.

Dunno if that helps at all... they are not two of my favourite philosophers.


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@Fridge's stories

First one made me think of this. My only complaint would be the switches from third person to italicized thoughts, when it could all be written from first person or all from third person (since it would be pretty obvious that things are being described from Charley's point of view). The whole story sounds like Charley's train of thought, so I don't think there's any need for his "actual" thoughts to crop up every now and then. It's not too bad, but stuff like this "He turned on the news. Some crazy Muslim blew himself up in Baghdad. Some sick old fuck married a 12 year old. Tune in in an hour for our report on oil prices. Go down the rabbit hole with our new program. Close your eyes and let it all drift away. " sound like the character's thoughts, but it isn't it italics.

Second one was good although "It’s important to remember that Plato never applied his abstract to the negatives. " stood out as very out-of-character since it sounds like a quote from a philosophy textbook and it's inside a profanity-ridden monologue. Also I was a little confused about who was talking in this paragraph:
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“She’s such a slut, I can’t believe it. Can you?” This sorry excuse for a human being is circling her own drain and doesn’t even have the decency to do it alone. “I think you’re a jealous bitch who’s too disgusted with her own body to let anyone touch it, let alone give you a good fucking, so you try to make everyone else look and feel dirty about who they fuck. Well, fuck you and fuck off.”

Since it's all first-person, you might want to give each chunk of the girl's dialogue a paragraph of its own. I find mixing non-dialogue with dialogue is pretty tricky.

In both of them you establish good tone and character but it doesn't really seem like there's any kind of story. They seem like the beginnings of longer pieces.


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Thanks for the advice, Jeff. Although... as far as "they're not really stories"... They don't have to have a narrative. They're character-based, and there is a definite moment of finality, as far as I can tell at least.

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So I need to produce a list of possible people to speak at my class' graduation this year. Any suggestions? The school has a pretty big budget, so big names are also a possibility.

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Any chemistry-foxes here?


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So I need to produce a list of possible people to speak at my class' graduation this year. Any suggestions? The school has a pretty big budget, so big names are also a possibility.


Tony Blair
Arnie
Sasha Grey
Bill Dukes
Michael Flatley
Bill O'Reilly
Ricky Gervais
Barack Obama
Jimmy Carr
Stephen Fry
Levi Johnston
MC Hammer
Werner Herzog
Corey Taylor
Juliette Lewis
Joe Pesci
Beck


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So I need to produce a list of possible people to speak at my class' graduation this year. Any suggestions? The school has a pretty big budget, so big names are also a possibility.


Tony Blair
Arnie
Sasha Grey
Bill Dukes
Michael Flatley
Bill O'Reilly
Ricky Gervais
Barack Obama
Jimmy Carr
Stephen Fry
Levi Johnston
MC Hammer
Werner Herzog
Corey Taylor
Juliette Lewis
Joe Pesci
Beck


Hm. Yeah... I was thinking more along the lines of George Monbiot, but...

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Bill O'Reilly?

He fucking loves Switzerland.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF3qLH5M8Tg)


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Bill O'Reilly?

He fucking loves Switzerland.

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF3qLH5M8Tg)



Horrendously oversimplified. What he thinks are great working examples of conservative policies are in fact problems that we are trying to change (like the immigration issue), whereas our healthcare and so on is due to socialist policies (although it is true that our healthcare isn't socialized. It's mandatory for every citizen, and those who can't pay get government help).

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