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Who listens to this garbage, honestly?
Do you have wives, daughters or girlfriends? Or if not, you probably have sisters and a mother... so how can you support this misogynistic garbage? Anybody ever have someone they care about brutally beaten, raped and left for dead? I have. It's not funny or amusing.
It's late at night and whatever female in your life that you happen to care about should have been home hours ago... still think this stuff is "entertaining"?
It's sick, the product of a diseased mind, and if you think it's "funny", and just harmless fun at that, well, you're a sick fuck, too.

http://www.trutv.com/library/crime/seri ... index.html

It's not as if this shit never happens.

I'm sorry if this offends you, I hope my review doesn't come of as so.

It's not like I'm sympathazing with the lyrics anyway.

Self-mutilation, man. Sisters got the right to cut on themselves as much as the menfolk do.

Being serious, you could make this argument for any band that sings about violence. Bands with war lyrics, for example, being disrespectful to the patriotic heroes who defend our various motherlands, or political topics - SOD's entire career, for example. Extreme Metal has extreme lyrical subjects, sure to offend someone, and that's the way it rolls.

No, you're cool.
It was just a general rant, not directed at you, rather at those that find it funny or amusing and those that are sick enough to pen it.
I honestly don't see the value in this stuff and it's ilk.
I'm all for allowing artistic expression, even "extreme" artistic expression, but "Breaking Hymens"?
C'mon; that's sick. It's about a step above snuff kiddie porn.

It depends on the context, my man... take a band like the Angry Aryans; the music is a bit catchy, but the lyrics are revolting. Grinded Nig is another. It's sick and venal.
As for writing about war and the like, that's just a whole lotta awesome, as long as it is done ala Bolt Thrower... I think you see what I am getting at here.
Political topics... expressing a political POV is one thing, and can be done thoughtfully, but I don't see the leap from expressing a political stance to raping virgins and torturing women.

yeah i agree with cry of the banshee

Why is violence against women suddenly so shocking and taboo? Bands have been doing it for years; Slayer and Megadeth, to name two examples. Do you think horror films and true crime novels are sick as well? War has killed many more people than a few serial killers have dismembered women; why is that so 'awesome' in comparison?

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You seriously have to ask this?

So will we be seeing an Angry Aryans review here, or how about some Grinded Nig?
After all, why is racism so shocking and taboo?
Or do you really dislike women so much that lyrics about raping little girls and murdering them doesn't piss you off?

It just seems to me you're picking on something as sick which, if you were being consistent, you'd have to criticise plenty of other things as sick too.

I do.
But if you can show me some examples of things that are on this level of depravity, then I will give you my opinion on them.
Songs of war and nationalism are not the same as writing about raping little girls, and you are smart enough to know this.
Like I said, stuff like Grinded Nig, Angry Aryans is equally repulsive; if that ever sees a review here, I'll be the first to say so.
WTF, am I crazy for getting pissed off at what is the "musical" equivalent of kiddie porn, with the extra added element of snuff thrown in, being pawned off as "artistic expression"?

I didn't realise it was specifically the child-raping which you were objecting to. But how is having lyrics which describe that equal to the act itself? Do you like reading about true-life crime where such (clearly) sick things happen?

And, what's up with editing an earlier post to add this:



That's out of order. Where did you get that from?

I am not saying that you do dislike women, so don't get your hind legs up. My apologies if I expressed myself poorly.
What I am driving at is how I can't see anybody that is a thinking person that doesn't hate women could defend this garbage.
Or in your case, not defend, but not get pissed off that this is even out there. I keep going back to the child porn analogy; it's not the same, I know, but it's in the same league. That there are people out there that find those things exciting is disturbing.
Come on man; you have a mother, sister and younger siblings, doesn't it bother you that there are people that find this stuff entertaining?

There has to be a line drawn somewhere, don't you think?

To answer your questions:

1) How is having lyrics which describe that equal to the act itself?

Well, it's not, but anybody that finds it entertaining is fucked in the old gulliver, in my opinion.
Writing about killing jews and so on is not the same as the act, eiher, but it is offensive nonetheless, is it not?

2) Do you like reading about true-life crime where such (clearly) sick things happen?

I have read some of them, but found them to be too depressing.
I do like to read about the likes of Jesse James, Dillinger, Bonnie and Clyde, though.
So, not particularly. There's enough ugliness in the world; why on earth (outside of a clinical interest in the anamolies of the human mind) would I seek it out?

Yes, but I put it in the same category as, say, Amon Amarth's Christian-hatred. Offensive to some, but the day we start censoring lyrical content in underground metal will be a dark one. Lyrics about child murder are sick, fine, but how are we to decide where the line is drawn? Example:

http://www.metal-archives.com/release.php?id=204669

The first song on that has lyrics detailing Albert Fish. A sick fuck, but that doesn't mean the song isn't good.

It's about context.
I have no problem with writing about historical events.
As for the anti-Christian lyrics, it depends; I would rather see pro-Heathen lyrics, though to be honest... and lyrics about massacring Christians, yeah, they are offensive and stupid.
But again, it depends on if that is the band in questions whole trip... bands like Avulsed (and others), that's their whole thing.
As for who decides who and where the line is drawn, that's obviously a personal choice; I am not sponsoring censorship at all.

Banshee, quit yo' crying. Women deserve the scornful, grotesque lyrics written about them, considering the mind-games and pettiness associated with them. I'm sure you've got your ass shot down a few times because of some dumb bitch who never grew up. Unless you're a feminist... or an easily-offended twink. Or both.

Man up.

I can't say I care for gore lyrics, either... But it's just music. lol.

About what I expected a bed-wetting baboon to post, so no surprises here.

Why you even bother wasting oxygen is a mystery to me.

Now there's proof that you take the internet way too seriously: you associate typing with actual speech.

It's pretty clear from your typical, err... contributions... here, that anything above the level of a slobbering chimpanzee spastically pounding on a keyboard would seem "too serious" to you.
Fuck outta here, grown-ups are talking.