Metal Reviews

I don't deny anybody's freedom of speech. I'm just opposed to certain ideas and fight it as strongly as I can. I don't consider censorship to be an effective way to "kill" fascim/racism. I'd rather let it speak and fight it inch by inch. Tell me, how does that make me a funny libertarian?

It's not so much having to agree fully with everything a band says. I mean can you empathise with the... I dunno... "energy"? of a band. Can you empathise not just with the rage itself, but with where that rage is coming from? (in a broad sense- I can do this with a militant left vegan band despite not being vegan, it's not like there has to be a precise mathematical fit) If not, how can you fully appreciate the band? Even more so if that rage is coming from a place you think is scummy.

I can see what you're saying Rio and I agree with you for the most part. I always knew Arghoslent was racist xenophobes but once I actually started reading lyrics and actually recognizing their message the enjoyment I got out of their music plummeted. However, there was still something I enjoyed for a quite a bit before I heard that message and I think that is a style which can be heard in this Godless Rising album albeit not as up tempo in GR. I recognize that initial interest albeit being nearly wiped away later on.

Earlier, I was framing it as tolerance and I think that applies to some ott '80s glam misogyny I listen to but the racism usually tends to erase the enjoyment I get out of a band. Saying that I can still see what I used to like about Pantera, Arghoslent etc (bands which I don't listen to anymore but had on the player for quite a while) or what someone else would like about them.

Erm, Arghoslent are basically Grand Belial's Key sans the vocalist, no? Equating them to Pantera because (presumably) of what Anselmo said that time is a bit .

I'll check out GBK. As for the Pantera mention, I've stopped listening to very few bands because of their message so Pantera was all I had. And Pantera played with David Allan Coe on Rebel Meets Rebel so yeah I'm pretty sure they buy into the "black people are niggers" ideology.

PS: Which I do not buy into for clarification. The word was used for expressing a message. I read Frantz Fanon and want to see Africa violently overthrow colonial oppression and send the Western economy into a gridlock.

Hmmm I disagree with most recreational drug use but to stop listening to a band because of that would cut off most contemporary musicians, barring straight edge hardcore. Being practically straight edge, minus the weirdo cult-like tendency, metal just wouldn't be my thing.

Yes, I understand that Rio: I have little trouble liking good anarchic BM or good environmentalist BM but if it is anarcho-leftist-vegan-ecofascist I probably won't be that quick to give it a listen.

And yes, this topic is tiring.

What's Coe done wrong? Wasn't his drummer black? And didn't he do a hate-song against Anita Bryant after she came out against gay rights?

Edit:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nothing_Sa ... _Coe_album)

Not a huge fan so I might be speaking out of ignorance, here.

"i'm not racist I have a black drummer"

Probably NSFW lyrics:
And to think I'd ate the pussy
Where that big, black dick had been
And kissed the lips that sucked him off
Time and time again
It's enough to make a man throw up
Sure is hard to figure
How any decent girl could ever fuck
A greasy nigger

V will come in here to claim how I'm wrong but yeah I always saw Coe as a racist and fans of Coe's usually tout how racist he is as a compliment.

Apparently it was a tongue-in-cheek song written about his drummer when he was on drugs.

http://www.countrystandardtime.com/d/ar ... sp?xid=360



I don't know. In polite, modern, left-wing company it's more than eyebrow-raising, but country music is a whole new country to me. I certainly wouldn't call it 'proof' that he's a racist.

Maybe. Different times and what not, but what he intended the song to mean or not to mean is contradicted by how podunk rednecks with confederate flags on their truck's backwindow interpret it.

And as for GBK, I could see the Arghoslent comparison. It's not bad. It being bm makes it a little different but an adequate replacement.

GBK were white supremacist douchebags without a doubt. If you don't like listening to DAC, then you shure as shit shouldn't be listening to them.

Dude, I was looking for an Arghoslent without the racism. I'm listening to PD fuck this.

Why you always presuming what I will and will not do?

Their music is directionless and just plain boring to listen too, I've heard comparisons to Dragonforce at times, and I can't say I disagree completely with that assessment.

'Cause you always try to foil what I write.