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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:17 pm 
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Veganism is incredibly unhealthy. There is a hierarchy of proteins in value from best to worst and it's something like. Whey, egg, chicken, beef, casein, soy. So basically, this and the lack of several B vitamins that are only found in animals are what make Vegans appear anemic and half starved. That, and I have NEVER seen a Vegan at the university gym, and I know who they are because they're always ruining everything.


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Yeah, the Vegans I know, who aren't even eating fish are doing a pill-cocktail for dinner more or less.


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I don't even know if I know any vegans lol


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Firstly, there is no way we can even begin to control how animals are raised and butcherd.
Because people can't put pressure on company to change their business practices? The world is a sad set of affairs.


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It's admireable that you care so much about this "issue". It really is, but I just don't see how you do it. When your meat is served, do you really think about how it got there?


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Meat is murder. That's a fact. Deliberate killing. Cattle Decapitation just emphasizes this notion. Get over it.


You must use a different dictionary than everybody else.

The intentional creation of life for the purpose of producing food through slaughter is called agriculture.


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I eat lots of meat. I would prefer if I could eat organic stuff all the time, but that's damn expensive. Nothing like a good steak.


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And yes, I follow the NFL extensively, and in the same area of time where Michael Vick killed a few ravenous Pitbulls, Donte Stallworth hit and killed a man while DUI in Miami Beach. Stallworth got minimal publicity and only about a month in prison. Vick got eviscerated by the eco crazies, who paid for billboards in Philadelphia to insult him on his drive to the practice field, dressed up as dogs and screamed at him, and generally proved their lack of sanity.


There's a pretty big difference between the two though. Fighting dogs is cruel/malicious while a DUI is stupid/negligent.

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The bottom line is: if eco-nuts directed their psychosis towards human trafficking, genocide, and murderers, instead of cows and chickens, maybe we'd have a change in the world.


-lots of people (way more, I'd hazard a guess) are working to end human suffering than animal suffering


The media portrays a very different picture.


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I tried to google PETA vs Red Cross donation figures but the closest I came is that PETA got 29 million in 2004 and the Red Cross got 10 million from text message donations towards Haiti.

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It's admireable that you care so much about this "issue". It really is, but I just don't see how you do it. When your meat is served, do you really think about how it got there?


It's not something I think about all the time or even on a day to day basis but I try to think about where the food I eat and stuff I use comes from and alter my habits accordingly.


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noodles wrote:
metal_xxx wrote:
It's admireable that you care so much about this "issue". It really is, but I just don't see how you do it. When your meat is served, do you really think about how it got there?


It's not something I think about all the time or even on a day to day basis but I try to think about where the food I eat and stuff I use comes from and alter my habits accordingly.


I'm not a vegan. But me anf my family only eat meat twice a week, and fish four times a week. Rest of week, a lot of vegetables, milk (and cheese & derivates) and eggs. Nor for ethical reasons, but for healthy reasons.

And bothering about what you're eating is really important, not for the animals, for you and your health.


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Since this is turning into the food thread,

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... ction.aspx

I thought that was interesting.


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traptunderice wrote:
Meat is murder. That's a fact. Deliberate killing. Cattle Decapitation just emphasizes this notion. Get over it.


You must use a different dictionary than everybody else.

The intentional creation of life for the purpose of producing food through slaughter is called agriculture.
:lol: No ethics in that definition. Cool story.


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traptunderice wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Meat is murder. That's a fact. Deliberate killing. Cattle Decapitation just emphasizes this notion. Get over it.


You must use a different dictionary than everybody else.

The intentional creation of life for the purpose of producing food through slaughter is called agriculture.
:lol: No ethics in that definition. Cool story.


Only you would dismiss one of the pillars of human civilization as a 'cool story'.


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GeneralDiomedes wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Meat is murder. That's a fact. Deliberate killing. Cattle Decapitation just emphasizes this notion. Get over it.


You must use a different dictionary than everybody else.

The intentional creation of life for the purpose of producing food through slaughter is called agriculture.
:lol: No ethics in that definition. Cool story.


Only you would dismiss one of the pillars of human civilization as a 'cool story'.
Ethics and laws are just as much a pillar of human civilization as agriculture. They may not be as primordially fundamental but they structure it just as much if not more. But that's fine. Unethical agricultural practices are agricultural practices and that isn't a problem for some.


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traptunderice wrote:
Unethical agricultural practices are agricultural practices and that isn't a problem for some.


I even mentioned in my first post that the industrial food system is 'deplorable'.

However, you chose to follow the path of the militant vegan and utter that old chestnut of absolutism 'meat is murder'.

But I know you are only half serious and probably a hypocrite so it's all good.


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This band is gay.


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traptunderice wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Meat is murder. That's a fact. Deliberate killing. Cattle Decapitation just emphasizes this notion. Get over it.


You must use a different dictionary than everybody else.

The intentional creation of life for the purpose of producing food through slaughter is called agriculture.
:lol: No ethics in that definition. Cool story.


Only you would dismiss one of the pillars of human civilization as a 'cool story'.
Ethics and laws are just as much a pillar of human civilization as agriculture. They may not be as primordially fundamental but they structure it just as much if not more. But that's fine. Unethical agricultural practices are agricultural practices and that isn't a problem for some.


So keeping pigs and chicken factories in close proximity isn't a problem? Say that when you get an uncurable strain of swine flu.
:P


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GeneralDiomedes wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Unethical agricultural practices are agricultural practices and that isn't a problem for some.


I even mentioned in my first post that the industrial food system is 'deplorable'.

However, you chose to follow the path of the militant vegan and utter that old chestnut of absolutism 'meat is murder'.

But I know you are only half serious and probably a hypocrite so it's all good.
The meat is murder was in reference to the musical content, trying to point out the death metal-iness of Cattle Decap. But yeah I'm serious but mildly hypocritical.


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