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More catchiness is not what metal needs :rolleyes:


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There is very little else to be said on the subject, more modern listeners prefer the streamlined sounds and production jobs of modern death metal as it's more immediately accessible to their ears. It's a lot harder for a fan of say Obscura due to issues such as production and technicality, for them to appreciate older bands that have more of a thrash influence. Modern bands play their niche including Nile which straddles both eras, old school dm is a dying sound in terms of the old "classics" shall we say. That being said I would take any old school death album over anything modern, though there are good bands in modern death metal as well.


Well summarised. It's a generational thing for sure.


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Rhys wrote:
More catchiness is not what metal needs :rolleyes:


That depends on your definition. All the genres are catchy in their own way. Polyphony keyboards and huge choruses are probably not what you consider melodic or catchy and you'd rather have a heavy groove or complete chaos to sounds good. Everything is not for everybody.

I like pop's sense of melody, myself, like most power and prog. metal bands and I personally think blues is a disgusting scale.

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Rhys wrote:
More catchiness is not what metal needs :rolleyes:


imo there's a serious lack of metal bands that do catchy right. There's a lot that completely avoid it, a lot that throw big choruses in their songs but aren't very convincing with it, and very few that can deliver an album of cunning and varied hooks.


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Rhys wrote:
More catchiness is not what metal needs :rolleyes:

Polyphony keyboards and huge choruses are probably not what you consider melodic or catchy and you'd rather have a heavy groove or complete chaos to sounds good. Everything is not for everybody.


What metal needs is MOAR MINIMOOG.


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I'm with noodles on the modern death metal thing; soulless and sterile, technical aptitude notwhistanding.
Not knocking it per se, but it doesn't do a damn thing for me.

Old-school death metal, on the other hand...


it's more than old-school/modern death metal to me. i don't like a lot of older death metal because the production made the guitars sound all muddy and, erm, undefined. with bands like Nile i prefer the newer albums, even if the band itself isn't exactly 'old-school'.

i can't stand a lot of this modern technical death metal because fooling around with rhythms and all the flowery guitars kill any flow the song could have, so much stop-start, and when they do get going the fucking blastbeats just kill the flow and fuck up the riffs.
then the fucking song titles, seriously, around the time decrepit birth's 'diminishing between worlds' came out you could sniff out a tech death song/album by name alone. many genres have this, but dunno, imo tech death is the most blatant.

i like my music mostly, regardless of genre, fast-paced and flowing, and tech death really makes it difficult to enjoy.

that said, i vey much enjoy the flowing songs from origin, fleshgod apocalypse, etc. . checked out ulcerate though, lol that's terrible.

it does make me sad though, 2 artists really seem to make people go crazy for them, Deathspell Omega and Devin Townsend (in his various acts), and i just can't get into them.

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There needs to be more bands as good as Gorgoroth on Twilight of the Idols and Ad Majorem Gloriam Sathanas.

Those are the two best extreme metal albums post 2000 if you ask me.


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There are definitely classics that were released recently, we're just too close to them to realise it. Everyone always complains about the modern state of every genre and points to the lack of classic albums, but that reasoning is inherently flawed. Half of what defines a classic is influence, and nothing released in the last two years has had time to influence anything. Kvelertak and Blackjazz from 2010 I think could be considered classics if the music on them sticks in 2011 and onwards, but if not then they might easily be forgotten. I'm sure not many people placed money on Velvet Underground and Nico to be a classic album in 1967 but it'd be hard to dispute that now.


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I guess it all comes down to the mere preference of sound I guess, but overall at least on this forum with it's predominance of old schoolers the older sounds of each respective genre wins. That's ok in my book, and I have to agree with of COTB and Emperorblackdoom Old school certainly seems to be the best sound


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it isn't just metal that's stagnant even though their have been some good metal releases it's music in general if you ask me.

all of the shitty pop/hip-hop that's released is fucking insane


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it isn't just metal that's stagnant even though their have been some good metal releases it's music in general if you ask me.

all of the shitty pop/hip-hop that's released is fucking insane



Yeah, I'd agree there. Even the boy band stuff from the 90's is a lot better than this "party pop/hip-hop" crap that is shoved down everybody's throat these days. I can enjoy a lot of different types of music, but man, Ke$ha and the like is just flat out bad. Everything from the actual music to the lyrics is just pure crap. American pop culture just sucks for the most part.


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huskerc7 wrote:
it isn't just metal that's stagnant even though their have been some good metal releases it's music in general if you ask me.

all of the shitty pop/hip-hop that's released is fucking insane



Yeah, I'd agree there. Even the boy band stuff from the 90's is a lot better than this "party pop/hip-hop" crap that is shoved down everybody's throat these days. I can enjoy a lot of different types of music, but man, Ke$ha and the like is just flat out bad. Everything from the actual music to the lyrics is just pure crap. American pop culture just sucks for the most part.


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I don't mind dancing to Kesha. Right now, I really really really enjoy dancing to Teenage Dreams by Katy Perry and Only Girl in the World by Rihanna. Fucking love that shit.

But seriously music isn't stagnant you just have to open your fucking eyes. Case in point, Scurrilous.

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The only pop song out today that I don't mind is Bad Romance, and even then those nonsense syllables just bug me.

Then again, I haven't been listening to a lot of Pop. Kesha and Katy Perry just give me a headache.


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I don't mind dancing to Kesha. Right now, I really really really enjoy dancing to Teenage Dreams by Katy Perry and Only Girl in the World by Rihanna. Fucking love that shit.

But seriously music isn't stagnant you just have to open your fucking eyes. Case in point, Scurrilous.


And you say I have bad taste in music :rolleyes:


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traptunderice wrote:
I don't mind dancing to Kesha. Right now, I really really really enjoy dancing to Teenage Dreams by Katy Perry and Only Girl in the World by Rihanna. Fucking love that shit.

But seriously music isn't stagnant you just have to open your fucking eyes. Case in point, Scurrilous.


And you say I have bad taste in music :rolleyes:
Not necessarily a taste in music. I don't listen listen to them. I just love dancing to them. If you went dancing you might get it. Songs that make me bash my head against the wall have been known to be not too bad whilst dancing and after a few beers.

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traptunderice wrote:
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traptunderice wrote:
I don't mind dancing to Kesha. Right now, I really really really enjoy dancing to Teenage Dreams by Katy Perry and Only Girl in the World by Rihanna. Fucking love that shit.

But seriously music isn't stagnant you just have to open your fucking eyes. Case in point, Scurrilous.


And you say I have bad taste in music :rolleyes:
Not necessarily a taste in music. I don't listen listen to them. I just love dancing to them. If you went dancing you might get it. Songs that make me bash my head against the wall have been known to be not too bad whilst dancing and after a few beers.

This. Kesha and co. aren't meant to be listening music they're club hits. I would hate listening to Kesha if I was high as much as I would hate listening to Katatonia drunk. Just because the music serves a different purpose doesn't mean it's inferior in every aspect. It's bad music but it's not bad party music.


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Listening to Bad Romance right now. Just wanted to say that this song is really fun.


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Fucking yes. Sure, it's not technical, or solo laden, but goddammit, a lot of people could learn stuff from making fun, danceable tunes. Kesha, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Gigi D'Agostino, Uffie, etc. And then there's my soft spot for 1990s italodance- Eiffel 65 and beyond.

And for the record, I listen to that stuff even when I'm not dancing. I just imagine that I am. :ph34r:

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