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Ummm some giant tome of either Dostoevsky or Lovecraft. Stuck on an island for the rest of my time would make Marx kinda useless. Lovecraft would be fun but Dostoevsky would be engaging.

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Cryptopsy - None So vile
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
Grinderman - Grinderman
Dax Riggs - Sing of Only Blood and Love
Megadeth - Peace Sells OR Dark Angel - Darkness Descends
Slough Feg - Atavism
PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea
John Coltrane - Soultrane
Big Black - Atomizer OR Shellac - 1000 Hurts
Big Chocolate of some variety just to have something to dance to.

Ummm some giant tome of either Dostoevsky or Lovecraft. Stuck on an island for the rest of my time would make Marx kinda useless. Lovecraft would be fun but Dostoevsky would be engaging.


Dostoyevsky would be very engaging. So would Nietzsche.

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I just don't dig Nietzsche. Amazing writer but his thought doesn't intrigue me like it should. I haven't given it nearly enough of a chance though yet to write it off entirely. Maybe being stuck on an island would force me to pick it apart like it needs to be. The Nietzsche guy in my dept says it took him reading Zarathustra four times and three secondary sources to feel comfortable like he understood it. He always thought he understood it or something but he was wholly ignorant of a layer. Or some bullshit like that. He is a pretentious asshole.

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I just don't dig Nietzsche. Amazing writer but his thought doesn't intrigue me like it should. I haven't given it nearly enough of a chance though yet to write it off entirely. Maybe being stuck on an island would force me to pick it apart like it needs to be. The Nietzsche guy in my dept says it took him reading Zarathustra four times and three secondary sources to feel comfortable like he understood it. He always thought he understood it or something but he was wholly ignorant of a layer. Or some bullshit like that. He is a pretentious asshole.


Well, Nietzsche's writing is allegorical and definitely takes a slower read to understand. As you have said he is a tremendous writer with the utmost elegance. He very well has opinions about everything and does not like a lot of things, either. A very strange individual, and I am somewhat suspicious that he had a mental illness other than the years of his insanity... Throughout his entire writings! He's ego is out the window in all of his writings and for that matter he regards himself as a staggering intellect. The way I see it, he is somewhat at some places and often in other places inconsistent and scattered in the style of his writing which in philosophy is regarded as something other than real philosophy. Maybe if he was a writer in German literature and not philosophy some people would think of him differently and not just someone who cannot create actual and proper philosophy.

The depth of his writing is second to none.

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I wouldn't say he isn't philosophy. I think he is a great philosopher just possibly not my kind. Genealogy is pretty great, the two shorter Antichrist and Twilight I got a lot out of. Those three texts I read my sophomore and junior year and really loved them. Having been dealing with Zarathustra the last year I kinda felt out of love with him just because I don't like how allegorical it is. I also just don't think the argument he is making in it is something worth unraveling. Maybe it is but just not in my research interests. I think I want to read him in the light of Foucault and Deleuze but that will be way later down the road.

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I wouldn't say he isn't philosophy. I think he is a great philosopher just possibly not my kind. Genealogy is pretty great, the two shorter Antichrist and Twilight I got a lot out of. Those three texts I read my sophomore and junior year and really loved them. Having been dealing with Zarathustra the last year I kinda felt out of love with him just because I don't like how allegorical it is. I also just don't think the argument he is making in it is something worth unraveling. Maybe it is but just not in my research interests. I think I want to read him in the light of Foucault and Deleuze but that will be way later down the road.


Very well--I have Deleuze's Philosophy At The Edge of Chaos: Gilles Deleuze and the Philosophy of Difference written Jeffrey A. Bell, and it is a very good book with the view point of Nietzsche and Deleuze (obviously) in particular. I also think of Nietzsche as a great philosopher and very much my kind. I haven't read anything by Foucault that analysis Nietzsche's philosophy in depth but he is very much a Nietzschean as he has regarded himself as one. The Anti-Christ and Twilight of Idols are excellent books and are probably his more clear writings in my opinion. I also regard Ralph Waldo Emerson as a great philosopher as well... any thoughts on him?

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Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus kicked my ass but I need to return to it. I want to read Deleuze on Spinoza. Spinoza is the one modern philosopher I can get into besides Hume and I'm kinda burnt out on Hume. I don't know if Foucault ever directly engages Nietzsche but it always plays in the background so that's kinda a relation you would have to study simply through reading both of them a lot. Those two Nietzsche books are short but very direct, well direct as he ever gets. Easy to pick up and put down over time.

I read Emerson and Thoreau in high school. I like his take on nature. I have a a vague recollection and probably a simplistic understanding of it but the conception of nature as a system and ultimately self-sustaining as it is bountiful might be interested as I move into doing stuff on ecology. I feel like I may be conflating him with Rousseau possibly here; it having been several years since i read him. Perfect reading while in a row boat or under a tree or laying out in a field. It's a book you read to a lady friend during a post-picnic cuddle.

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Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus kicked my ass but I need to return to it. I want to read Deleuze on Spinoza. Spinoza is the one modern philosopher I can get into besides Hume and I'm kinda burnt out on Hume. I don't know if Foucault ever directly engages Nietzsche but it always plays in the background so that's kinda a relation you would have to study simply through reading both of them a lot. Those two Nietzsche books are short but very direct, well direct as he ever gets. Easy to pick up and put down over time.

I read Emerson and Thoreau in high school. I like his take on nature. I have a a vague recollection and probably a simplistic understanding of it but the conception of nature as a system and ultimately self-sustaining as it is bountiful might be interested as I move into doing stuff on ecology. I feel like I may be conflating him with Rousseau possibly here; it having been several years since i read him. Perfect reading while in a row boat or under a tree or laying out in a field. It's a book you read to a lady friend during a post-picnic cuddle.


Yes... Spinoza is a philosopher I would like to know more about. I have his ethics but haven't gotten into it yet. He definitely has a very unique way of putting things and I totally agree with you on his modern way of thinking. I also agree that Hume's philosophy gets a bit exhausting after a while but I like Kant's continuation of Hume's philosophy in general but not his categorical imperative so much as it gets things unnecessarily complicated. Nietzsche's most diverse book is probably The Gay Science followed by his more ethical and moral approach on Untimely Meditations. But yes, the mentioned books (Twilight of Idols and The Anti-Christ) are his two most direct and easy reads.

I too find Emerson's view on nature very interesting as he tends to romanticize nature in a very elegant form. He also has a rather optimistic idea about human nature. Rousseau's point of view is also interesting in his famous phrase "man is free, but everywhere he is in chains." Most recently I have been more into esoteric text like Ghazali and Mulla Sadra and their take on Mysticism which interests me no end. Although, I have to admit it sometimes is hard to comprehend and a lot other times mind-expanding as with all esoteric texts.

If you are continuing with Ecology you should read Ken Wilber if you don't know him already.

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I just don't dig Nietzsche. Amazing writer but his thought doesn't intrigue me like it should. I haven't given it nearly enough of a chance though yet to write it off entirely. Maybe being stuck on an island would force me to pick it apart like it needs to be. The Nietzsche guy in my dept says it took him reading Zarathustra four times and three secondary sources to feel comfortable like he understood it. He always thought he understood it or something but he was wholly ignorant of a layer. Or some bullshit like that. He is a pretentious asshole.


It's not that difficult to understand just to Kaufamann's edition, read the intros of the allegories and that's all. As expansive as Nietzsche's thought is, the central ideas are all very much the same. I've read it about three times myself, and it's probably the most accessible out of his books.


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I just don't dig Nietzsche. Amazing writer but his thought doesn't intrigue me like it should. I haven't given it nearly enough of a chance though yet to write it off entirely. Maybe being stuck on an island would force me to pick it apart like it needs to be. The Nietzsche guy in my dept says it took him reading Zarathustra four times and three secondary sources to feel comfortable like he understood it. He always thought he understood it or something but he was wholly ignorant of a layer. Or some bullshit like that. He is a pretentious asshole.


It's not that difficult to understand just to Kaufamann's edition, read the intros of the allegories and that's all. As expansive as Nietzsche's thought is, the central ideas are all very much the same. I've read it about three times myself, and it's probably the most accessible out of his books.


Precisely. Nietzsche's ideas rotate around the same themes. Eternal recurrence, Joy and harmony in life however hard life may get, Strenght, Honour, determination. Nietzsche was a deeply religious man in his own right. He was obviously an Atheist but deeply a believer in human courage and strong character.

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