Bruce_Bitenfils wrote:
Define Infinity wrote:
Although I don't believe there such a thing as human nature and we are merely a reflection of mother nature itself which is immense and endless in nature, I still believe these people we are talking about should be wiped out of the face of the earth without a doubt. I also believe if the budget is there they should be living in inhuman conditions for the rest of their lives and suffer to last breathe of their existence. Human nature is vast and endless.... So what it comes down to is responsibility to its fullest for each and every individual. The human being—through his consciousness—creates his own values and determines a meaning for his life because, in the beginning, the human being does not possess any inherent identity or value. So if an identity of a human being is so very disgusting in nature it becomes a responsibility for them to SUFFER. Killing is an easy way to deal with it because it's an instant relief but suffering is long and more deserving. Revenge is meal best served cold.
Alright, and what's the point on revenge, exactly ? What does the society gain to be "avenged" ? This is beyond me, I just cannot understand. Put all the motherfuckers of the world behind bars for the rest of their lives, and I'll say good riddance, because in this case we actually gain something. But killing ? Torturing ? Humiliating ? *sigh*
Edit : and I understand the "yeah but keeping them alive is costly for the society" thing. But to me, it is part of the price to pay to have safe streets.
To sum up : Price of lifetime sentences < (Moral) Price of murder (and that kind of punishment)
In my opinion, someone that creates a nightmare for an innocent one and creates a lifetime of misery and haunting trauma for them, should also be haunted by sufferance and pain for the rest of his/her lifetime. You see, that's just my opinion and no matter what we say here the so-called justice system will act in whatever way they see fit.
I agree with Alexander that it is just a vicious circle and these people will shape an organized crime behind bars and more people will be killed, anyhow. In any way one looks at it, in the end what remains is a purely personal matter for the person sitting at the other end of the table (that being the victim of the crime).
Suppose Mr. X is someone that his relative gets raped or murdered or some other horrible crime. Would he want the murderer or whatever the case might be behind bars, or in solitary confinement, or in very poor conditions, serving time?
I don't know! It's purely personal. But there is no doubt in my mind that in one way or another the victim of the crime wants some sort of revenge or in a rare cases forgives the other. I am a very forgiving person myself, although when it comes down to these sort of things, there is no mercy! Did the murderer have mercy? Obviously not!! So what forgiveness or an ordinary life is left for the person that has committed the crime in the first place?
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