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Well let's give you some samples of class Stefan:

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Hey, you're american, everybody hates you and wanna rob you. :lol:


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Metalstorm's a real man. He hates gays and treats women like prostitutes! über macho!
Ha, true he has an avatar of the gayest category... :lol:


And I can go on and on and on and on.

Yep Stefan you're ooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzing class :rolleyes:

You were the one to first bring America in like a badge of honor or something. What's more, those were obvious puns which you and the masked überval took seriously.


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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Well let's give you some samples of class Stefan:

The Annoying Frenchman wrote:

Hey, you're american, everybody hates you and wanna rob you. :lol:


The Annoying Frenchman wrote:

Metalstorm's a real man. He hates gays and treats women like prostitutes! über macho!
Ha, true he has an avatar of the gayest category... :lol:


And I can go on and on and on and on.

Yep Stefan you're ooooooooozzzzzzzzzzzing class :rolleyes:

You were the one to first bring America in like a badge of honor or something. What's more, those were obvious puns which you and the masked überval took seriously.


Look at your avatar. You can be a Francophile, but as soon as one of my countrymen mentions the US, you feel you have something you gotta say?
Who the fuck do you think you are? You have a long history of talking trash about the US, pun my ass. You think you are fooling anyone? The usual passive - agressive bullshit game.


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My avatar is a joke. I don't care about France or French people that much. Nor do I hate americans as much as you might have thought I did. I just can stand arrogance and narrow-mindedness, two things the most active americans on the political and societal issues seem to have in unlimited supply.


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USA? more like US-gay. HAH


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My avatar is a joke. I don't care about France or French people that much. Nor do I hate americans as much as you might have thought I did. I just can stand arrogance and narrow-mindedness, two things the most active americans on the political and societal issues seem to have in unlimited supply.



Again with the talking trash about Americans. You can't stand arrogance? Look in the fucking mirror, clown.


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Fight arrogance with arrogance, cunt.


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Fight arrogance with arrogance, cunt.


You're a joke.
You talk about narrowmindedness and arrogance, two of your defining traits. The way you constantly attempt to charcterize the US is a perfect example of this.


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Nobody here has said that homosexuals should be denied any rights, so I don't know why this is even being posted.
That being said, who "stripped her of her rights"?
And what rights are being denied her?

And one more thing to point out the melodramatic hyperbole so often associated with militant gays: a shirt that says "legalize gay"... hmmm, as far as I know, homosexuality isn't illegal in the US.


She has a repeal Prop 8 sticker so probably has something to do with that. Wikipedia blah blah blah:

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Proposition 8 (ballot title: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment; called California Marriage Protection Act by proponents) was a ballot proposition and constitutional amendment passed in the November 2008 state elections.


There is some debate on whether "marriage" is a right or not; homosexuals are allowed to have a civil union, so it's really just symbolic at this point.


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The way you constantly attempt to charcterize the US and is a perfect example of this.

:lol:


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Nobody here has said that homosexuals should be denied any rights, so I don't know why this is even being posted.
That being said, who "stripped her of her rights"?
And what rights are being denied her?

And one more thing to point out the melodramatic hyperbole so often associated with militant gays: a shirt that says "legalize gay"... hmmm, as far as I know, homosexuality isn't illegal in the US.


She has a repeal Prop 8 sticker so probably has something to do with that. Wikipedia blah blah blah:

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Proposition 8 (ballot title: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment; called California Marriage Protection Act by proponents) was a ballot proposition and constitutional amendment passed in the November 2008 state elections.


There is some debate on whether or not "marriage" is a right or not; homosexuals are allowed to have a civil union, so it's really just symbolic at this point.


Personally I don't see why gays would want a religious marriage within an institution that persistently demonizes them and their lifestyles. It would be like a Jew complaining that he can't get a Nazi funeral or something.

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Cú Chulainn wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
noodles wrote:
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Nobody here has said that homosexuals should be denied any rights, so I don't know why this is even being posted.
That being said, who "stripped her of her rights"?
And what rights are being denied her?

And one more thing to point out the melodramatic hyperbole so often associated with militant gays: a shirt that says "legalize gay"... hmmm, as far as I know, homosexuality isn't illegal in the US.


She has a repeal Prop 8 sticker so probably has something to do with that. Wikipedia blah blah blah:

Quote:
Proposition 8 (ballot title: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment; called California Marriage Protection Act by proponents) was a ballot proposition and constitutional amendment passed in the November 2008 state elections.


There is some debate on whether or not "marriage" is a right or not; homosexuals are allowed to have a civil union, so it's really just symbolic at this point.


Personally I don't see why gays would want a religious marriage within an institution that persistently demonizes them and their lifestyles. It would be like a Jew complaining that he can't get a Nazi funeral or something.


On the issue of marriage, I think one of the sticking points is the religious aspect of it all, but really, as I don't really care about this either way, I'm not too well versed on the matter so I can't really comment on it with any real authority. Still, if a civil union is a legal ceremony in which two people enjoy all the benefits (I believe; again, I'm not an expert on this), than I don't see what the issue really is, beyond symbolism.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
Cú Chulainn wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
noodles wrote:
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Nobody here has said that homosexuals should be denied any rights, so I don't know why this is even being posted.
That being said, who "stripped her of her rights"?
And what rights are being denied her?

And one more thing to point out the melodramatic hyperbole so often associated with militant gays: a shirt that says "legalize gay"... hmmm, as far as I know, homosexuality isn't illegal in the US.


She has a repeal Prop 8 sticker so probably has something to do with that. Wikipedia blah blah blah:

Quote:
Proposition 8 (ballot title: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment; called California Marriage Protection Act by proponents) was a ballot proposition and constitutional amendment passed in the November 2008 state elections.


There is some debate on whether or not "marriage" is a right or not; homosexuals are allowed to have a civil union, so it's really just symbolic at this point.


Personally I don't see why gays would want a religious marriage within an institution that persistently demonizes them and their lifestyles. It would be like a Jew complaining that he can't get a Nazi funeral or something.


On the issue of marriage, I think one of the sticking points is the religious aspect of it all, but really, as I don't really care about this either way, I'm not too well versed on the matter so I can't really comment on it with any real authority. Still, if a civil union is a legal ceremony in which two people enjoy all the benefits (I believe; again, I'm not an expert on this), than I don't see what the issue really is, beyond symbolism.


I'm not a fan of the idea of marriage itself in the first place, but I can see why some people might want to ritually formalize what they believe to be an expression of their love, and I understand that in many cases, there are financial benefits. If these are met with a civil union case, then, well, I see two options. Because marriage has a somewhat religious connotation, either we remove the religious aspect of marriage entirely, thereby leaving no reason for gays not to get married, or we consider marriage to be entirely religious, and therefore entirely subjective, again leaving no reason for gays not to get married.
A third option would be to do away with the institution of marriage anyway and simply have civil unions for everyone.

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Personally I don't see why gays would want a religious marriage within an institution that persistently demonizes them and their lifestyles. It would be like a Jew complaining that he can't get a Nazi funeral or something.

Because gays want to be able to do everything that straight people can. Marriage in most cases just doesn't work, as they have a much less monogamous lifestyle than straight people.

Therefore I say: allow LGBT marriage, prohibit LGBT divorce. Everybody wins! :cool:


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They have a much less monogamous lifestyle than straight people.


I'm pretty sure that's not true.

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They have a much less monogamous lifestyle than straight people.


I'm pretty sure that's not true.

Then obviously you haven't been around gays. Which I'm pretty sure is not true.


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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
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They have a much less monogamous lifestyle than straight people.


I'm pretty sure that's not true.

Then obviously you haven't been around gays. Which I'm pretty sure is not true.


The gays I know are just about as promiscuous as the rest of the people I know. But then, maybe I just know a lot of promiscuous straight people.

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I'm a joke. I just can't stand arrogance and narrow-mindedness so I need to look into the mirror and tell myself I'm the biggest arrogant and narrow minded hypocrite around


Yes you should.


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USA? more like US-gay. HAH


Actually more like Gaynada HAH!!!!!


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Cú Chulainn wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
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cry of the banshee wrote:
noodles wrote:
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Nobody here has said that homosexuals should be denied any rights, so I don't know why this is even being posted.
That being said, who "stripped her of her rights"?
And what rights are being denied her?

And one more thing to point out the melodramatic hyperbole so often associated with militant gays: a shirt that says "legalize gay"... hmmm, as far as I know, homosexuality isn't illegal in the US.


She has a repeal Prop 8 sticker so probably has something to do with that. Wikipedia blah blah blah:

Quote:
Proposition 8 (ballot title: Eliminates Rights of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. Initiative Constitutional Amendment; called California Marriage Protection Act by proponents) was a ballot proposition and constitutional amendment passed in the November 2008 state elections.


There is some debate on whether or not "marriage" is a right or not; homosexuals are allowed to have a civil union, so it's really just symbolic at this point.


Personally I don't see why gays would want a religious marriage within an institution that persistently demonizes them and their lifestyles. It would be like a Jew complaining that he can't get a Nazi funeral or something.


On the issue of marriage, I think one of the sticking points is the religious aspect of it all, but really, as I don't really care about this either way, I'm not too well versed on the matter so I can't really comment on it with any real authority. Still, if a civil union is a legal ceremony in which two people enjoy all the benefits (I believe; again, I'm not an expert on this), than I don't see what the issue really is, beyond symbolism.


I'm not a fan of the idea of marriage itself in the first place, but I can see why some people might want to ritually formalize what they believe to be an expression of their love, and I understand that in many cases, there are financial benefits. If these are met with a civil union case, then, well, I see two options. Because marriage has a somewhat religious connotation, either we remove the religious aspect of marriage entirely, thereby leaving no reason for gays not to get married, or we consider marriage to be entirely religious, and therefore entirely subjective, again leaving no reason for gays not to get married.
A third option would be to do away with the institution of marriage anyway and simply have civil unions for everyone.


There is s fourth option: leave it be.
As long as a civil union affords the same benefits as marriage, I don't see what the problem is. If a gay couple are religious and want a religious ceremony, that is something that may have to be re-analyzed on their part if said religion does not condone homosexuality.


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But then, maybe I just know a lot of promiscuous straight people.

That's what you've been letting on about yourself, actually :wink:


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