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PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2012 11:48 pm 
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An 88 from Milan? Must be something intriguing. I have heard previous efforts from this mastermind and did like it for what it was.

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Define Infinity wrote:
An 88 from Milan?


Not so unusual. He gave a 90 to Deloused in the Comatorium (which, in my opinion, is only their third or fourth best album).

On topic though, I haven't heard this, and I think I need to check it out.


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
Define Infinity wrote:
An 88 from Milan?


Not so unusual. He gave a 90 to Deloused in the Comatorium (which, in my opinion, is only their third or fourth best album).

On topic though, I haven't heard this, and I think I need to check it out.


So? I tend to review things that I like. I'd like to do the new Ensiferum which I'd give a much lower score but Olivier has that claimed, so... And if you think my ratings are too high in general (which is an opinion your absolutely entitled to) then just ignore that and focus on the review because in the end it's the words that count, not the numbers at the bottom.

With that being said, check this out, it's a wonderful album.


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Milan wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
Define Infinity wrote:
An 88 from Milan?


Not so unusual. He gave a 90 to Deloused in the Comatorium (which, in my opinion, is only their third or fourth best album).

On topic though, I haven't heard this, and I think I need to check it out.


So?


Relax dude, you totally misunderstood me. Nima said it must be special because you gave it an 88, implying you never give high scores. I was just trying to point out you've given some high scores before, that's all. I think this review, and all your others for that matter, are totally fine.


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
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Thrashtildeth wrote:
Define Infinity wrote:
An 88 from Milan?


Not so unusual. He gave a 90 to Deloused in the Comatorium (which, in my opinion, is only their third or fourth best album).

On topic though, I haven't heard this, and I think I need to check it out.


So?


Relax dude, you totally misunderstood me. Nima said it must be special because you gave it an 88, implying you never give high scores. I was just trying to point out you've given some high scores before, that's all. I think this review, and all your others for that matter, are totally fine.


Sorry, had a bad day. I guess in my frustration I misinterpreted the whole thing, my bad.


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Milan wrote:

... and focus on the review because in the end it's the words that count, not the numbers at the bottom.



Been trying that for 10 years now with this site.


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Milan wrote:
Sorry, had a bad day. I guess in my frustration I misinterpreted the whole thing, my bad.


That's cool man. I'm sorry I didn't make myself clearer!

Alex@MetalReviews.com wrote:
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... and focus on the review because in the end it's the words that count, not the numbers at the bottom.
Been trying that for 10 years now with this site.


Yeah, it's hard....I've been here, what, 5....6 weeks? Already I'm struggling with the final numbers. I get a gut a feeling about what an album deserves but then I realise the number has to make sense in comparison to the other ratings I've already given....I hope people really do read the words, the justifications are in there.


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I'm really struggling with that too. I'm often writing a review with a certain score in mind and after finishing said review I realise that that rating either doesn't fully correspond with what I've said about the album, or with the ratings I've given other albums. It's often the rating I struggle with the most, not writing the actual review. Which is why reviewing an ep can be a huge relief.


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Milan wrote:
I'm really struggling with that too. I'm often writing a review with a certain score in mind and after finishing said review I realise that that rating either doesn't fully correspond with what I've said about the album, or with the ratings I've given other albums. It's often the rating I struggle with the most, not writing the actual review. Which is why reviewing an ep can be a huge relief.


And while you were forum dwellers, guys, remember you thought it was easy? It is good to cross over sometimes to see the view from the other side.


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In my defence, in the 4+ years I've been registered I only remember ever criticising two reviews, and only one of them was because of the score.

One was a review Kyle did for Coheed & Cambria, he gave them a good review and I hate that band, so I stirred up some shit, I admit.

The other one was when Thomas reviewed Evile's Infected Nations. He gave it a 50 and that was one of my favourite albums of that year, so I took umbrage at it.

Aside from those, I'm pretty sure I never criticised anyone over any other reviews.


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
In my defence, in the 4+ years I've been registered I only remember ever criticising two reviews, and only one of them was because of the score.

One was a review Kyle did for Coheed & Cambria, he gave them a good review and I hate that band, so I stirred up some shit, I admit.

The other one was when Thomas reviewed Evile's Infected Nations. He gave it a 50 and that was one of my favourite albums of that year, so I took umbrage at it.

Aside from those, I'm pretty sure I never criticised anyone over any other reviews.


No need to defend since I wasn't attacking. Just saying, like I repeated multiple times, that to come up with a coherent review (whether you liked the album or not) isn't easy, and when people out there only look at the bottomline number you feel like a wasted effort. I was often a proponent to do away with numbers but brass at MR overruled me always.


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
In my defence, in the 4+ years I've been registered I only remember ever criticising two reviews, and only one of them was because of the score.

One was a review Kyle did for Coheed & Cambria, he gave them a good review and I hate that band, so I stirred up some shit, I admit.

The other one was when Thomas reviewed Evile's Infected Nations. He gave it a 50 and that was one of my favourite albums of that year, so I took umbrage at it.

Aside from those, I'm pretty sure I never criticised anyone over any other reviews.


I never did Infected Nations.

Still think it sucks though :)


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By the way guys, this album is truly fantastic.


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Milan wrote:
By the way guys, this album is truly fantastic.


Listening to it now, not bad at all, although I generally prefer more experimental prog rock to this 'storytelling'/AOR style. Enjoying it though, his voice is a grower.


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Thomas wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
In my defence, in the 4+ years I've been registered I only remember ever criticising two reviews, and only one of them was because of the score.

One was a review Kyle did for Coheed & Cambria, he gave them a good review and I hate that band, so I stirred up some shit, I admit.

The other one was when Thomas reviewed Evile's Infected Nations. He gave it a 50 and that was one of my favourite albums of that year, so I took umbrage at it.

Aside from those, I'm pretty sure I never criticised anyone over any other reviews.


I never did Infected Nations.

Still think it sucks though :)


lol....looks like that one was kyle as well! Sorry Dude, I remember arguing with you about it at some point though!


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
In my defence, in the 4+ years I've been registered I only remember ever criticising two reviews, and only one of them was because of the score.

C'mon, it's fun to argue whatever the reason. That's part of the life of a forum/review site.
I don't find it difficult to come up with the final rate, but that's because I have a method. :wink:


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Goat wrote:
Milan wrote:
By the way guys, this album is truly fantastic.


Listening to it now, not bad at all, although I generally prefer more experimental prog rock to this 'storytelling'/AOR style. Enjoying it though, his voice is a grower.


Yes, it's definitely more straightforward than your usual prog. The emphasis is on the hooks and the storytelling instead of on experimenting which is why I emphasised that in my review as well. I'm glad you're enjoying it!


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