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Hit or Miss: Machine Head
Hit 28%  28%  [ 9 ]
Miss 72%  72%  [ 23 ]
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 2:52 pm 
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I listened to Burn My Eyes back in 94, when it appeared, and I didn't like it, so I'm not nu-metal prejudiced or anything. Except Davidian and Old, I never understood what's with all the talk about this band, they seem awfully boring to me. Highly overrated, as far as I'm concerned. Miss.


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I voted hit only because I consider BME one of the 90's classic metal albums. Plus, I like it... However, I was fooled into buying Supercharger by a crap review and felt they really betrayed their talent.

On a related note, I would be willing to consider an album a classic even if I personally didn't enjoy it that much. I'm not a huge fan of Metallica's black album, but I would list it was one of the classics of the 90's. On the other hand, I really really liked Emperor's IX Equilibrium, but I probably wouldn't consider it as "classic."


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milkbaby wrote:
On a related note, I would be willing to consider an album a classic even if I personally didn't enjoy it that much. I'm not a huge fan of Metallica's black album, but I would list it was one of the classics of the 90's.


If you'd list the black album as classic, you'd be in the company of very few, I think.


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milkbaby wrote:
On a related note, I would be willing to consider an album a classic even if I personally didn't enjoy it that much. I'm not a huge fan of Metallica's black album, but I would list it was one of the classics of the 90's.


If you'd list the black album as classic, you'd be in the company of very few, I think.


Very, very few. At least among metal fans.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:32 pm 
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milkbaby wrote:
On a related note, I would be willing to consider an album a classic even if I personally didn't enjoy it that much. I'm not a huge fan of Metallica's black album, but I would list it was one of the classics of the 90's.


If you'd list the black album as classic, you'd be in the company of very few, I think.


Very, very few. At least among metal fans.


You might be surprised. Quite a few metal fans do consider the black album a classic.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:09 pm 
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Newcomers or scenesters, for the most part.


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Inever got into this band. I used to own both BME and TMTC and, I don't know, I guess I just didn't "get it". I wouldn't go as far as to say those albums are Nu-Metal but I can see the influence. My brother raved about those albums, and I bitched him out good for liking such shite. Vio-lence is great stuff though. Oh, and the Black album is not a classic and I would personally consider IX Equilibirum as a classic. It blew me away the first time I heard it. Back on topic: a huge miss.


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Brahm_K wrote:
the666th wrote:

If you'd list the black album as classic, you'd be in the company of very few, I think.


Very, very few. At least among metal fans.


Maybe among the metal fans in the subset known as the death/black/thrash fans on metalreviews.com. But among the general headbanging public, I guarantee you the majority consider the black album one of the classics of metal.

When I say "classic", I'm looking at the big picture. Paranoid, Back in Black, the black album, and other classics help define an era and/or style in the metal time line. So what I'm saying is that I consider Burn My Eyes one of the albums at the pinnacle of the heap at that time. While IX Equilibrium absolutely rules, in my opinion, I don't feel it is as important or defined the times as much as the other albums I mentioned as classics.

So arguably, I might consider Guns'n'Roses Use Your Illusion albums as classics even though I think they suck. It's all just my personal opinion though.


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So what did the black album define? That the only way Metal could get on the radio was to be watered down to such a state that it became uninteresting? Great claim to fame there.

What did Burn My Eyes define?


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The black album didn't define anything. It was very useful as a gateway, I myself entered metal through the black album, back in '91. And many others like me. I'm not gonna bash it, it's an excellent gateway, accessible enough to atract the uninitiated, but nothing more.


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It nearly put me off Metal. I was brought in by Maiden and soon after told 'you need to hear this album,' and it almost bored me to death. Eventually I grew to quite like it but now I just don't give a toss either way.


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Radagast wrote:
So what did the black album define? That the only way Metal could get on the radio was to be watered down to such a state that it became uninteresting? Great claim to fame there.

What did Burn My Eyes define?


The black album is like the starting point for the mainstream -- not only of the general public, but metal as well -- to accept metal other than hair/glam metal. Sure, Metallica went platinum with Justice, but the main line in metal until the black album was essentially still glam/hair metal. What was big in the late 80's and early 90's? F***ing crap like Poison, Warrant, Bullet Boys, and what have you, even G'n'R which I hated and still hate...

As you and other said also, it has been a "gateway" album for many folks. Same thing as Back in Black, which is arguably not that much different from what AC/DC did before, but so many headbangers heard/bought it, that it was important for the era.

I don't consider Burn My Eyes a classic on the level as the black album, more like a minor classic, something that is one of the most representative albums of the zeitgeist of the time. On a similar level, I would choose Vulgar Display of Power, Heartwork, and take your pick of any Morbid Angel from Blessed... to Domination (not a big fan, but would consider one of their albums, probably Blessed, a classic of the time). Obviously, these choices reflect my personal opinions, but I think the vast majority of metalheads would think these choices reasonable, if not necessarily exactly the same ones they would make. Almost forgot, I'd throw in Anthems to the Welkin... among that lot as well.


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milkbaby wrote:
On a related note, I would be willing to consider an album a classic even if I personally didn't enjoy it that much. I'm not a huge fan of Metallica's black album, but I would list it was one of the classics of the 90's.


If you'd list the black album as classic, you'd be in the company of very few, I think.

How can you not label that as a classic album? Regardless of its massive radio and video exposure it is still a metal album, a heavy album, too. Sure, "Nothing Else Matters" isn't heavy, but what is so different about that song and "Fade To Black?" Sure, "Fade To Black" cranks it up a bit, but it's still not a very heavy song. The Black Album is definitely a classic album.


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Miss, obviously. This band is the epitomy of GAY.


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Miss, obviously. This band is the epitomy of GAY.

And so is reviving six-year-old threads.


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With something stupid, that is.

Machine Head has been a very poor metal act for most of his career. The Blackening, let it be said, was a good album and, so, I'm looking forward to Unto the Locust espacially since the bonus tracks will consit of a Witch Hunt (Rush) & The Sentinel (Judas Priest) covers. Yay!


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I honestly haven't heard much of Machine Head, but the stuff I've heard was just meh to me.


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The Annoying Frenchman wrote:
With something stupid, that is.

Machine Head has been a very poor metal act for most of his career. The Blackening, let it be said, was a good album and, so, I'm looking forward to Unto the Locust espacially since the bonus tracks will consit of a Witch Hunt (Rush) & The Sentinel (Judas Priest) covers. Yay!

The "Witch Hunt" cover is shit, but "The Sentinel" cover is quite good.

Great album, too.


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Miss, obviously. This band is the epitomy of GAY.

And so is reviving six-year-old threads.


Maybe; but it's not as gay as Machine Head.

And The Blackening is just as gay as the rest.


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