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Solid hardcore, but everything about Jasta ruins this. His vocals are annoying, the lyrics blow. They write decent breakdowns at best, but simply not worth the effort tolerating the dude to hear 'em. Give me Trapped Under Ice or Turnstile or Harm's Way or All Pigs Must Die. They all have a much fresher sound than this bullshit. Might have been cool in the '90s but nah not now.

*waits for Ken to give him a lecture*

This band has gotten progressively worse since their classic Hardcore debut. Jasta is awful and he sounds forced, and the band continues their Slayer obsession in their riffs.

Oh well...

"I have to make one thing clear about my history of listening to this band. To put it straightforward, I have no familiarity with the band whatsoever so I had no possible way to expect what I was going to hear."

Thank you for the preamble...but why the heck are you chosen to review this? Or why did you chose to review this? It's obvious you have no basis for review. It's amazingly funny how you can peruse through many other metal reviews and see that most of them have given Hatebreed's new album a pretty favorable score...yet you outright bash it to no end. The difference? Most other people that review this have actually heard of Hatebreed before. You should have just passed this one up.

No one else was hopping on it and as the resident hardcore afficionado, I gave it a similar score to the reviewer's. If you wanted a favorable review, read the ones you apparently already found.

Familiar with a band or not, within certain limits, hearing a good band for the first time should result in approval. He didn't say that he hated hardcore or even Hatebreed for that matter; he simply hadn't given Hatebreed a listen before. I write reviews about bands I've never heard until I get their promo and if they're good, I give them a favorable rating. His preamble only matters to you since he gave it a harsh score. Based on your logic, no one should ever review debut albums of bands because we have no basis for review having not heard them before.

Reserved.

I hate hardcore. I was just stating how so many other reviews had given this album a pretty good review. Everyone knows that reviews are completely subjective, but when there is a basis, a history, a tiny bit of knowledge of the band in question...reviews change a bit. As a hardcore aficionado...it absolutely baffles the mind that Hatebreed were never heard of before. A band that has existed for more than 15 years. I am all for reviewing new bands or never heard of bands and forming an opinion. But my main gripe was having a "tiny" bit of knowledge of the band before reviewing it. Like maybe hearing some of their older stuff first for a few days...THEN reviewing this album and coming up with a conclusion. But a simple COLD review from scratch? Come on. Seriously?

I'm the one that claimed to be a hardcore afficionado, not the reviewer. Two different dudes. And I know who Hatebreed are. It doesn't mean that I was going to enjoy this. And that's the beauty of MR, we're not afraid to counter the general tide of positive feelings about an album if we don't think it deserves it. And ultimately there are only so many hours in the day and new releases such as this deserve to be reviewed in a timely manner. Would his opinion have changed after giving Supremacy or Perseverance a few spins earlier in the week? I don't think so.

I just did not like the record. I avoided them for the last 15 years because I've never been much of a fan of hardcore. There's been very few bands with this genre I've happened to enjoy even though they are more borderline metalcore. I thought I would change up my listening routine by giving this album a chance since I've always been pretty open with all music. Plus the constant pressure from a couple of friends over the years to give Hatebreed a chance. I just couldn't get into it even the slightest bit. Everyone is more than welcome to disagree though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Your appeal to the majority argument drives me bonkers because trapt "quality controlled" Jared's review and gave it a similar lousy score. Maybe you'd have solid ground to stand if only Jared had admitted to not caring about hardcore/Hatebreed going in and gave it a lousy score. In which case you could just appeal to all the glowing reviews throughout the internet to assure yourself that Jasta is a modern Bach (I realize you don't even like hardcore). But a hardcore enthusiast also reviewed the album along with the new guy, and came to a similar conclusion. So this is the site that gave Hatebreed a bad review? Oh well.

It's the kind of moment where I'll talk about how the riff to Dead Man Breathing is cool for the first 30 seconds, and then Jasta starts singing, and then the song lasts a whopping three minutes while the breakdown doesn't opt for a breakdown riff for an entire forty seconds, instead repeating the opening riff and making it all widdly, but then with twenty seconds left in the song we get an actual drop that goes nowhere. Poorly crafted songs that when you add up all the little cool nuances throughout the album, it gets a score of 34 or 40.

I'm sorry I'm not on Jasta's dick like everyone else in metal who probably doesn't even listen to modern hardcore. Is that a Ken screenname?

On your comment about the majority I agree completely. I gave this album so many chances. I listened and tried my absolute best to like it. Falling in line to other reviewers opinions would completely discredit my truthful and honest review of the album. The last thing I want to do is give people a review that's based on the influence of what others may think (more or less conforming to the majority) when I would go about writing my review. This is my own individualistic opinion and to change my thoughts about something simply because "someone else" said it was good, I would basically be lying to my audience about how I really felt about it. Definitely something I would never want to do.

I'll admit I used to be into these guys when I was 16. But then I, like, grew up. For the longest time I had Perseverance on my iPod and then I realized I would skip over every song from it whenever I had it on shuffle (Final Prayer is still a good song though).

Not sure how any hardcore fan can find Jasta's vocals annoying, considering it's the quintessential hardcore vocal delivery. If you find this annoying you'd have to find most hardcore vocalists annoying. And if that's the case, your opinion is invalid. =)

hatebreed are really bad

lol wat

He sucks, and just because someone hates his vocals doesn't mean their opinion is invalid. That's bullshit.