Metal Reviews

Once again, I agree. If he had stuck to the clean vocals I would have scored this a little higher. I've heard all this before.

55/100

Musically I think they're damn good! You throw a James Hetfield or Chuck Billy on those songs and most metalheads wouldn't complain.

I still would. Because I think they're a pretty terrible band.

Maybe, but I still wouldn't bother listening. The music just isn't all that interesting for me.

Also, after Decapitated, the whole "hey, they are young so give them a break" thing no longer means much. Or hell, look at Death Angel, they weren't quite golden on that first album but they still kicked ass all over this stuff. I don't really see much potential in Trivium because their flaws are far more than just superficial or "they just need to work the kinks out" debut-type problems. Death Angel's debut was promising, because mostly what it needed was a little more polish and some improved songwriting, but already two albums into their career Trivium is going nowhere fast, and I just don't see them ever creating something I would care to purchase and listen to.

trivium arent very good. their guitars are the same as any other band out there, their drummer is fairly good and their singer blows - his screams suck and his clean vocals sound way too forced ("lets throw in a clean chorus to sound catch guys!")

Well, any vocalist could suck, just because he is not the best screamer/shouter/yeller/clean vocalist/etc. I don't think that he's the best vocalist out there but after a few spins, you could say that his voice compliments the band just fine, and most of the songs on the album are quite good. If any of you want to start a band by all means start a metal band so we can analyze your awesome voice.

I think his clean vocals are good.

And you'd be wrong.

And great, I always love it when someone tries to defend a shitty band they like with the "I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO BETTER" schtick. As if you had to be a better vocalist than someone to realize that they sound like total shit.

Yep,you dont have to be shit to know that thing in the toilet is shit.

For the record, I agreed that his vocals are for the most part shitty, but I liked them at times. That's the difference. I would still give this band around a 70/100 it is not like I am trying to argue that they deserve more. Oh and I just love it when somebody tries the "I can do better (or in this case my brother)" schtick to put down a band that you personally think sucks, or whose voice does not compliment the album. Now you are just being hypocritical :roll: you don't need to be a vocalist to know that.

The playing isn't bad, quite technical, but the songwriting is awful. Avenged Sevenfold write better songs (with worse lyrics, natch).

Zing!!

Now you're just being ignorant, not that you seem to able to do anything else. If I was a hypocrite I would have said that being a better vocalist than the shitbag in Trivium makes me and only me qualified to judge his vocal performance. However, despite what your incredibly limited cognitive abilities may lead you to believe, there was no direct contradiction in my statement.

This guys sucks no matter how you look at it, whether or not any of us are better than him doesn't change that either way. Your statement, however, implied that we had to be musicians/vocalists to have an opinion on his vocals, or that our inability to do that somehow trivializes our opinion, whereas I was simply pointed out how funny it is that a kid in 9th grade sounds better than this guy.

Your defense hinged on your pathetic grade-school attempt to show us up, my statement was simply an addition to my opinion, not a support or a basis.

The "I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO BETTER" schtick is how different from the "My 14 year old brother sound better on vocals than this jerk" schtick? One is the question, one is the answer, both are stupid.

Like I said...

It was not an attempt to validify my opinion, it was just an added observation. He called into question everyone who criticized the vocals by attempting to discount their opinions based on his schtick. My statement was not the defensive equivalent of his, it just has an aesthetic similarity. What is so difficult to understand?

:shock:

"Observation: The act of noting and recording something, such as a phenomenon, with instruments."

How is your 'observation' defensive? You posted it first and called Heafy a 'jerk' because your little brother was supposedly better. When asked for evidence and are suspected for being a hypocrite, you doubted the cognitive abilities of someone younger than you when you in fact cannot even chronologically understand the sequence of our posts. When you say that "My 14 year old brother sound better on vocals than this jerk," you had absolutely no support. For all we know, you could have no brother at all, or he could suck at vocals. Who knows? And I am not calling anybody else's comment into question, you cognitive master of the english language, just yours. It is an empty statement. Why post anything if you do not have any evidence that would make anyone believe you? Refer us to another band maybe? It seems as if you just had to shout out your opinion without thinking or saying why it is so. You seem upset that somebody has not swallowed your opinion but instead ask why? And in this case, the only ignorance I possess is the lack of knowledge about your brother's vocals, and your cognitive skills (but i may be able to draw a swift conclusion just from your recent, humorous retort). I'll leave you with this review, buddy. It seems that you cannot understand what I am trying to say, so I will let you get in your "last word" before I depart to listen to better music than Trivium. Post away partner :arrow:

What I see:

Someone says: "You shouldn't critisise unless you can do better"

What a load of shit. That's how idiots defend boybands.

Someone says: "My 14 year old brother could do better"

That's called a joke. An old, tired joke perhaps, but still not the same thing as the previous statement.

Someone else comes and takes piss out of initial two.
Someone else comes and laughs at all for wasting so much time over such a shitty band.

eh, i'm quite late to jump in the conversation, but I purchased this CD after hearing some comments about the band and after hearing "Dying in your arms"(love the lead guitar) for the first time. I got the version with 4 bonus tracks 2 being new songs, 1 being a cover of Metallica's Master of puppets and the video mix of Dying in Your Arms. After listening to this CD I agree with Emokid on most of what he said. First this band is mainly Metal, they have elements of Thrash, Death and Iron Maiden like Metal with some metalcore mixed in. The guitar playing is awesome, and even though some of the lead guitar playing are somewhat repetitive on songs like "Dying in Your arms" and "The Deceived", but they make them very catchy and gives them a little melancolic side making them quite enjoyable. In fact, The Decieved is my favorite tune from the CD, it also has a very high skilled solo.
I like the clean singing but the screaming parts need some work. the growling is ok though, that would be the only gripe I have about this CD. I've read a lot of negative comments recently about Trivium and I couldn't disagree more about most of them. Do yourselves a favour and listen to it before making up your opinion, I did and was pleasantly surprised.

I'd rate Ascendency 82%.