Metallica - Master of Puppets (#2756)

Ness · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 12:27 pm

MetalDoc wrote:

You're missing the point. The quality of music and metal is not defined by the best drummer, the fastest guitar player or the most or least riffs with acoustic transitions as you say. It is obviously something much deeper that that, something that is difficult to define but almost always in some way stirs your emotions. MoP does that for me and millions of others out there. I just don't see how any metal fan can listen to Battery or Damage inc. and not get into it. But if you do evaluate this album has a thrash metal album, than yes you will be dissappointed because it isn't thrash metal. Kill em All was thrash - this album for it's time is progressive metal, just like Opeth, Tool, Dream Theater, etc., all of which I love and I have a feeling you don't.

Oh man, you are going to lose this one with Dead Machine. Trust me, get out while you can and introduce yourself on a different forum section.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

MetalDoc wrote:

You're missing the point. The quality of music and metal is not defined by the best drummer, the fastest guitar player or the most or least riffs with acoustic transitions as you say. It is obviously something much deeper that that, something that is difficult to define but almost always in some way stirs your emotions. MoP does that for me and millions of others out there. I just don't see how any metal fan can listen to Battery or Damage inc. and not get into it. But if you do evaluate this album has a thrash metal album, than yes you will be dissappointed because it isn't thrash metal. Kill em All was thrash - this album for it's time is progressive metal, just like Opeth, Tool, Dream Theater, etc., all of which I love and I have a feeling you don't.

Opeth is not progressive. At all.

I like Tool when they're writing actual songs.

Dream Theater is the most overrated band on earth.

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 4:08 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

MetalDoc wrote:

You're missing the point. The quality of music and metal is not defined by the best drummer, the fastest guitar player or the most or least riffs with acoustic transitions as you say. It is obviously something much deeper that that, something that is difficult to define but almost always in some way stirs your emotions. MoP does that for me and millions of others out there. I just don't see how any metal fan can listen to Battery or Damage inc. and not get into it. But if you do evaluate this album has a thrash metal album, than yes you will be dissappointed because it isn't thrash metal. Kill em All was thrash - this album for it's time is progressive metal, just like Opeth, Tool, Dream Theater, etc., all of which I love and I have a feeling you don't.

Opeth is not progressive. At all.

I like Tool when they're writing actual songs.

Dream Theater is the most overrated band on earth.

Maybe you'd like Opeth if you looked at them as a Black metal band?

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

zadsterboombox wrote:

Maybe you'd like Opeth if you looked at them as a Black metal band?

I like Opeth a lot when they're not playing or writing music.

Wink.

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:03 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

zadsterboombox wrote:

Maybe you'd like Opeth if you looked at them as a Black metal band?

I like Opeth a lot when they're not playing or writing music.

Wink.

I don't, Akerfeldt has one of the crappest moustaches I have ever seen. Either grow it properly or shave it off!

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

zadsterboombox wrote:

I don't, Akerfeldt has one of the crappest moustaches I have ever seen. Either grow it properly or shave it off!

Hey, someone's got to make a stand for the right to grow chocolate-milk mustaches.

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:06 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

zadsterboombox wrote:

I don't, Akerfeldt has one of the crappest moustaches I have ever seen. Either grow it properly or shave it off!

Hey, someone's got to make a stand for the right to grow chocolate-milk mustaches.

Now appearing on a billboard near you: Opeth, modelling Calvin Klein. And I bet they're in the next Spiderman film.

Dead Machine · **Joined:** Sun Sep 19, 2004 6:24 pm **Posts:** 2527

zadsterboombox wrote:

Now appearing on a billboard near you: Opeth, modelling Calvin Klein. And I bet they're in the next Spiderman film.

It's not selling out! They're just trying to allow the maturity and growth of their artistry so as to not become stale! They'e progressing!

Goat · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 5:27 pm

Dead Machine wrote:

zadsterboombox wrote:

Now appearing on a billboard near you: Opeth, modelling Calvin Klein. And I bet they're in the next Spiderman film.

It's not selling out! They're just trying to allow the maturity and growth of their artistry so as to not become stale! They'e progressing!

I liked The Grand Conjuration, despite all that "signing to Roadrunner" bollocks. Doubt I'll get the album, earlier stuff is far better, and if half as good as Still Life it's a must-buy!

(So much for Master Of Profits...lol)

Holy_Terror · **Posted:** Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:39 pm

you're right, his mustache sucks...Bobby Gustafson's is way better. And Kyle from incantation has a mustache too.

metallica06 · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:37 pm

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

Metalhead_Bastard · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:42 pm

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

Yes, and the s/t is S-club 7's best album. :roll:
I'm not denying that this kicks ass, but just because it's Metallica does not make it godly. Buy Kreator-Pleasure to Kill if you haven't already, it'll show you what Metallica COULD'VE been.

North From Here · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:50 pm

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

Master of Puppets isn't their best, just their most overrated. Justice for All and Ride the Lightning were better.

Stefan · **Posted:** Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:57 pm

emperorblackdoom wrote:

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

Master of Puppets isn't their best, just their most overrated. Justice for All and Ride the Lightning were better.

I stongly disagree (I'll not play the "I was there" card on that one Aaron :wink:

)

MOP is still the landmark for how quality thrash should sound... that and Coroner's Punishment For Decadence...

NP
Metallica "Master of Puppets" (I was 15 y o the first time I heard that... alost 20 years later this still blows my mind...)

North From Here · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:51 am

It's a good album, I won't disagree with you there, Stefan.

I didn't know you were that much of an oldtimer. Hails to you for sticking with metal as long as you have.

Eyesore · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 5:53 am

Not sure what's going on here, but Master Of Puppets is...uh...dope and whatnot.

Radagast · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 1:27 pm

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

:roll:

Adam · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 2:16 pm

Radagast wrote:

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

:roll:

+1

The_Voice · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:49 pm

afeigel wrote:

Radagast wrote:

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

:roll:

+1

+2

Legacy Of The Night · **Posted:** Thu Feb 09, 2006 11:50 pm

The_Voice wrote:

afeigel wrote:

Radagast wrote:

metallica06 wrote:

Brahm_K wrote:

Completely overrated album. Its good... Not great, or anywhere near Classic. There were large amounts of thrash albums better than this in '86, possibly metal's best year.

how dare you soil the goo name of master of puppets this is no doubt metallicas best album

:roll:

+1

+2

+3

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