Metal Reviews

JESUS CHRIST!!!! :shock:

I honestly hope all of those babies were born dead for their own sake, though some appeared to be alive...

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Mutated Babies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would say good, provided it is used without causing harm and with an intention in moving ahead technologically.

Look at the dead babies, then see if you still believe that.

That's an appeal to emotion. It's a cheap tactic.

That having been said, we WILL have to use some form of alternate energy when the oil runs out, unless we've developed fusion by then, and nuclear energy is the only sensible source. Solar is a pipe dream that nobody will support, wind isn't really possible to implement without causing some large-scale ecological disasters, and there's not enough viable water in the world to use hydroelectric power.

Either it's nuclear, or we go to the stone age until fusion's discovered, Zad. That's the ugly truth.

Earth really shouldn't be sustaining this many people; we'd need three worlds if everyone lived like americans or norwegians, for example. Therefore, nuclear power is good in two ways; either it grants power to large cities or something goes horribly wrong and it destroys large cities.

If nuclear power is shouted down by idiots who don't know what's good for them, then I'd back a Larry Niven-style culling/restriction of pregnancy lottery to directly lessen the rate at which idiots consume oil..

Here's a thought to comfort your soul - nitrogen based fertilizers are made from natural gas and so are a non-renewable resource. Some estimates are that up to 2 billion people on the planet depend on fertilizer. One day, the earth will run out.

It true that there is no easy way to sustain mankind's development. If nuclear power is the only way to stave off the collapse of the world as we know it then its going to be used.

One day we'll all die and everything can start again.

I like the way that showing the effects of radiation on fetuses is emotional tactics. So, if I was to use the effects of thelidomide (sp?) on babies, that wouldn't be a valid argument either? Rubbish! By ignoring the dangers you're just setting up yourselves for a major disaster a few years down the line that'll make Chernobyl look like a picnic. As for the alternatives, the only argument I've heard against wind power so far is that "they look funny". Which is really a major concern! People will act with the whole issue as they are with global warming, ignoring it for future generations to deal with. You've seen what DU does to people, imagine that tenfold! And you think the risk's worth taking? Madness.

"It true that there is no easy way to sustain mankind's development."

I think there is except people (governments) just have their priorities wrong.

As Azrael pointed out, those kids were deformed through exposure to DU ammunition, not nuclear power plants. You can't present those deformities as the inevitable effects of nuclear power; so no, yours isn't a viable argument. Living in proximity to nuclear power plants is linked to higher rates of cancer in children, it's true, but that's why I said it isn't perfect, only the most viable alternative to fossil fuels.

For the record, oil isn't going to run out for a long time. There's been no real solid evidence for an oil crash.

some experts I read in the french press or saw on french tv said oil was to be missing in 20 to 50 years from now... I personnally hope it will push us (humankind) to set new habits to lower our energetic needs rather than to rush in something as hazardous as nuclear power...

best powersources for the future : the wind, and the sun...

DU = Radioactive. The coalition has been pumping Iraq full of the stuff, and, though I don't know what it's half-life is, I bet it's quite long. So, you can expect to see the Top Ten Deformed Iraqi Baby charts for a long time yet.

Nuclear power plants = Radioactive. Cancer clusters near Sellafield, means nothing sure. So, my country puts more money into raping the planet instead of looking into better ecological solotions. Like wind power. But no, can't have that becuase they spoil the view, no. Tidal power? Geothermal, solar, fucking near anything other? No, you stupid hippy, nuclear's the way forwards. So a few kids die young, who cares when money is saved? Not to mention how good for the war on terror it'll be if one of those Islamist cunts manages (and security at these places is not good, I was at the Houses Of Parliament and a couple of waves of suicide bobmbers would kill the entire government) to take one out and make the green grass glow.

You know what? I'm really tired of saying the same thing over and over again. Fuck nuclear power, fuck anyone that wants it.

There's not a consensus among geologists. All the ones I've talked to have said that oil isn't going to run out for a hundred years at least. Obviously this doesn't mean we shouldn't be searching for alternatives, as fossil fuels have serious drawbacks. No need for panic, though.

maybe because the output you get from wind and solar is crap? you'd have to cover the english channel in solar pannels to power london's PUBLIC TRANSPORTS alone. now think about the whole city, the whole coountry, all of europe, and the whole world.

and that's exactly why I talked about some changes in our everyday's habits.... rather drastic changes, I admit that... but if it's what needs to be done to preserve our most valuable treasure (aka Planet Earth) then, that needs to be done !

and yes, I know, I am a fucking hippie

The problem is that doing what you're suggesting won't work. Idealism doesn't help anyone.

Zad, for the record, you don't get what I'm saying. I don't like nuclear power either. It's unstable, it causes cancer (then again, so does the act of living, but let's not get into that), it's expensive, and it fucks the environment.

However, should the oil crash come before we invent fusion, then there won't be any viable alternatives and nuclear power will have to be the short-term solution. There's no other way.

I don't like it either, alright?

Fusion is already possible, it's just too expancive yet. Nuclear energy is the stepping stone for fusion. Wind is gay, and have you ever wondered how many birds fly into those things anually?
Sun is a possibility, but it's way too epencive on the long term, and consumes a lot of space. It's quite instable as well, depending on the amount of clouds etc. Maybe future energy sources are some of we have never heard, or that we know of very little, such as using the temperature difference of the ground and a kilometer higher as an energy source.

Who gives a fuck?

Stefan's right, the only way forwards is to go back.

That's just very ignorant. You have no clue what technology is.