Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
You mean why bother getting them if there's not much difference? It's just a purist thing, I suppose. I'm much more of an elitist with films than I am with music. Also, you feel kinda short changed, and even patronised, if you're watching something that has had bits removed for your own mental safety.
I doubt I would pay to see somthing containing real animal violence in the vast majority of cases. Cannibal Holocaust would be the most famous example... Even in the cut UK version you see a living rat being sliced up and eaten(!) The director of that film says (and I empathise to an extent), that the rat would have been killed anyway by the native Islanders "starring" as the cannibals, and he just filmed it happening for a movie. So if it's just something that would happen anyway being added into a film then it doesn't bother me any more than a wildlife documentary about predatory animals. (I mean, maybe he was just lying to justify himself... I withhold judgement) What I object to unequivocally is directors like Lenzi, who did just kill a load of animals for pure shock value.[/i]
It's an interesting topic. Do you like them because of the extra "extremity", in which case, go totally extreme -> snuff movies. You can't tell me you believe there's artistic merit in these films, they only achieved the cult status they have because they were banned/edited.
Extremity interests me, but you can be interested in extreme cinema without watching snuff. There is a wall separating cinematic brutality with actual suffering. I would like to see how close I can get to this wall, but I would never want to get to the other side of it... Compare it to music: So many BM fans talk about wanting to hear music that's as evil and misanthropic as possible, but mostly they would stop short of wanting to hear audio samples of people being murdered.
But yeah, despite said interest in extremity, I always want to see it coupled with good quality filmmaking. Within the murky depths of the more extreme realms of horror cinema there is an awful lot of dreck. So often I am left disappointed, but finding a film that is genuinely well made is like finding a diamond that makes it all worthwhile.
