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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:42 pm 
Lukati wrote:
This album is so goddamn generic, and absolutely predictable from start to finish. This 'new formula' isn't fresh in any way, and judging by their back catalogue and their overall talent, I'd say this album is borderline insulting.

60/100

Insulting to whom? They don't owe us fans anything! This album isn't in any way whatsoever predictable. Predictable is them doing another standard power metal album, which is all they've ever done. This anything but predictable, it's just different.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:01 am 
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Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:24 am 
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.

Bah! To whom? This album will sell no more than any other album.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:30 am 
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.


Hmmm.... I'm not so sure that any musician purely interested in sales would do anything even remotely close to metal. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine these guys are making anything more than a comfortable living off their music.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:45 am 
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I like Trinidad. It's a very catchy fun song. The song like the least is Fucking with Fire.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:49 am 
Orion wrote:
I like Trinidad. It's a very catchy fun song. The song like the least is Fucking with Fire.

DOH! "Fucking With Fire" is excellent. Honestly, I'm surprised so many of you like "Trinidad."


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:16 am 
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The day Edguy will (really) disapoint me has not yet arrived, and I doubt it will ever will


I doubt that too Chris. You managed to score yet another Edguy album in the 90's. You're going for a record.

Ok on a more serious note, i find this album to have a few stinkers that ruins the good impression of some songs.For me there are great Edguy songs on every album, but it's more like 2-3 great and 6-7 average to just worse. The only exception is of course VGO. This album doesn't stray much from the above formula. The album opens great with Sacrifice, which is a good hard rock/melodic heavy metal combo with a very infectious chorus. The other songs which have slowly been growing on me are Wasted Time and Catch Of The Century. Good catchy melodies always have an impact on me, i'm guilty of that. Save Me sounds as bad as 99% of Edguy ballads and i think that The Asylum is a blatant copy of Piper Never Dies.



I really don't see the similarities between The Asylum and the Piper Never Dies. I mean the Piper Never Dies is a godly song. Gave me goosebumps the first 100 times a listened to it and still does sometimes. The Asylum is no where near the absolute amazingness of TPND. Still a good song though.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:35 am 
Orion wrote:
PyroMan wrote:
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The day Edguy will (really) disapoint me has not yet arrived, and I doubt it will ever will


I doubt that too Chris. You managed to score yet another Edguy album in the 90's. You're going for a record.

Ok on a more serious note, i find this album to have a few stinkers that ruins the good impression of some songs.For me there are great Edguy songs on every album, but it's more like 2-3 great and 6-7 average to just worse. The only exception is of course VGO. This album doesn't stray much from the above formula. The album opens great with Sacrifice, which is a good hard rock/melodic heavy metal combo with a very infectious chorus. The other songs which have slowly been growing on me are Wasted Time and Catch Of The Century. Good catchy melodies always have an impact on me, i'm guilty of that. Save Me sounds as bad as 99% of Edguy ballads and i think that The Asylum is a blatant copy of Piper Never Dies.

I really don't see the similarities between The Asylum and the Piper Never Dies. I mean the Piper Never Dies is a godly song. Gave me goosebumps the first 100 times a listened to it and still does sometimes. The Asylum is no where near the absolute amazingness of TPND. Still a good song though.

It's probably the rhythm, that Dio-esque stomp that each song has. I agree, though, I don't hear any similarities really, just that like slight similarity in stucture, but that's a stretch.

Chris mentioned a Bon Jovi similarity in "Save Me," I don't hear that, but I totally hear Bon Jovi's "Bad Medicine" in "Wasted Time."


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:54 am 
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Radagast said everything I have to say about this album. 60/100 for the few catchy songs.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:01 am 
metalNESS wrote:
Radagast said everything I have to say about this album. 60/100 for the few catchy songs.

Eyesore wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.

Bah! To whom? This album will sell no more than any other album.

Mike @ MetalReviews wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.


Hmmm.... I'm not so sure that any musician purely interested in sales would do anything even remotely close to metal. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine these guys are making anything more than a comfortable living off their music.

:roll:


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Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Radagast said everything I have to say about this album. 60/100 for the few catchy songs.

Eyesore wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.

Bah! To whom? This album will sell no more than any other album.

Mike @ MetalReviews wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.


Hmmm.... I'm not so sure that any musician purely interested in sales would do anything even remotely close to metal. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine these guys are making anything more than a comfortable living off their music.

:roll:


I have more posts than you.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:04 am 
Pffft! Barely.


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Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.


Oh yeah?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:08 am 
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.

Oh yeah?

Cut this shit, spammer!

On topic: "Judas At The Opera" would have made this album a 95/100!


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Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.

Oh yeah?

Cut this shit, spammer!

On topic: "Judas At The Opera" would have made this album a 95/100!


Judas at the Opera would have shot this album to infinity. Seriously, that is probably one of my all time favorite songs.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:21 am 
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.

Oh yeah?

Cut this shit, spammer!

On topic: "Judas At The Opera" would have made this album a 95/100!

Judas at the Opera would have shot this album to infinity. Seriously, that is probably one of my all time favorite songs.

A stunning piece of work indeed. I absolutely love the 70's influence.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:26 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.

Oh yeah?

Cut this shit, spammer!

On topic: "Judas At The Opera" would have made this album a 95/100!


Agreed. That would have added a lot to the album. But also would have made my buying of the EP a waste of money.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:38 am 
Orion wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.

Oh yeah?

Cut this shit, spammer!

On topic: "Judas At The Opera" would have made this album a 95/100!


Agreed. That would have added a lot to the album. But also would have made my buying of the EP a waste of money.

You think? The other songs on that EP are excellent!


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:53 am 
Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Radagast said everything I have to say about this album. 60/100 for the few catchy songs.

Eyesore wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.

Bah! To whom? This album will sell no more than any other album.

Mike @ MetalReviews wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Different and more saleable. Coincidence? Sure, why not.


Hmmm.... I'm not so sure that any musician purely interested in sales would do anything even remotely close to metal. I could be wrong, but I can't imagine these guys are making anything more than a comfortable living off their music.

:roll:


'dems fightin' words! Let's take this outside....

Call me stuck in the past, but I really think Edguy hit their peak with VGO and Theater of Salvation. They've released very good/excellent material since, but they just seem better versed for that type of music (VGO & ToS) than the more starightforward melodic metal/rock albums we've heard since. Still, I enjoy this album, but I do hope they haven't abondoned their VGO/ToS sound forever.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:55 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
Orion wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Pffft! Barely.

Oh yeah?

Cut this shit, spammer!

On topic: "Judas At The Opera" would have made this album a 95/100!


Agreed. That would have added a lot to the album. But also would have made my buying of the EP a waste of money.

You think? The other songs on that EP are excellent!


But if 2 of the 5, including the best, songs were on the album then it would have been better just to stick with the mp3s rather than shelling out the cash. IMO. There is a lot of stuff i want to buy.


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