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 Post subject: This needs to end.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:15 am 
Sorry guys, not every decision here is made based on the results of a public opinion poll. After all, we're not US politicians.

That's not to say your input isn't considered, it is. However, some of the comments I've seen today are discouraging to say the least. One implies that we're a bunch of arrogant assholes that will laugh at you and say that we don't care what you say. To that, I say:
- Reader's Choice Awards
- User quotes enabled on each review
- Expanded capabilities via the "Search" action

Those are some of the improvements we've put into place based upon reader feedback. There are a few others in mind, as well. In fact, I had planned to try an idea regarding new user ranks that I had seen some of you mention in the forums, but I've been pre-occupied with this garbage the past few days.

Naturally, we can't implement EVERY idea for various reasons, but to say that we don't care is reactionary at best, stupid at worst.

Now, this issue is one of those that would be decided be a poll. As I said earlier today, this latest issue isn't the only reason why a certain poster was banned. He was already banned once, and as I mentioned perviously, part of that reason is based upon personal attacks made by this guy onto MR staff. Here's what I posted earlier, read it again if need be:
Earlier today, I wrote:
Jürgen wrote:
Radagast wrote:
Of course it takes two to tango, but I'm gonna go ahead and say 'teh big V' came out of his latest ego masturbation session looking a lot worse than anyone else.

I think that Belephor made an ass out of himself, and shoul've just ignored Eyesore instead of posting his PM and continuing the argument (twice to boot). I just think that banning him was overkill.


Had this been the ONLY thing he did, then I'd agree, banning would be overkill. Remember though, the guy had already been banned, but returned with a new username. Looking back, I guess it's my fault for giving him the benefit of the doubt when he came back. I tried to stay fair and positive, thinking he'd be different this time. He didn't exactly have a clean slate before this whole incident; far from it. This latest episode was simply the final drop of water that caused the dam to break.

When he left the site as a reviewer, it was on amiciable terms. He said that he needed time for him family and couldn't fulfill the obligations of being a reviewer. Fair enough, we all have higher priorities in life that we need to attend to. Somehow though, he had plenty of time to launch insults at this site on the forums almost daily, and sometimes personal insults at individual reviewers here. Eventually, he made a big stink in the forums (as always) basically swearing off this ridiculous and horrible site forever (stronger words were used). Wish granted; banned. So then, after swearing off the site in dramatic fashion, he shows up as V. in Helheim, still running his mouth with vile, anger, and hate about dead issues to anyone who will listen. Helheim was then made registration only, and he resurfaced as belethor. You saw the rest. I don't want to go into any more detail than that, but suffice it to say that he made a lot of enemies in the forums, and especially with the reviewers that were here at that time.

Having said all that, I should have just nipped this in the bud and stopped him when he first reappeared. It was stupid of me to think anything would have been different.


Based on some comments from today, it is clear that some here are very quick and eager to say that we don't care what readers think. Of course, I will then have to assume that said readers do not care about our thoughts on this issue. After all, said readers have ignored what I said above in that the guy created severe, irrepairable, destructive feelings with some of us. However, you expect us to immediately let the guy back on because that's "what the people want." Brilliant. Those who live in glass houses shalt not cast stones.

I can't help but notice how little people seem to post about music lately. If flamewars, who started them, the validity of punishments issued therefater, demands for an explanation of said punishments, and polls to "whose side are you on" are the pervailing topic on the forums, it's obvious that we need a serious forum overhaul. Instead of answering e-mails to labels and bands that wish to send us promos and writing my own reviews, now I'm caught up in this ridiculousness. This is really undermining the whole reason this site is here: to promote metal. Jesus Christ, our weekly update of 10 reviews was practically ignored over this garbage. It needs to stop.

What's done is done, and is in the past. Thus, they cannot be changed. The consequences of those actions have fallen into place, and will not change; poll or no poll. I've explained myself quite thouroghly for those of you who asked. It's over. It's not going to change. It's time to move one. There is music to discuss, let's move beyond this waste of time and energy, please.

If some of you really miss the guy that much, visit this site where he is a member, and converse with him there:
http://www.blackmetal.co.uk/Forums.html


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:26 am 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:26 am 
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Legacy Of The Night wrote:
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:29 am 
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
GAYMEN


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:31 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
GAYMEN


:lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:36 am 
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MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
AMEN


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Eyesore wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
GAYMEN


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:48 am 
metalNESS wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
AMEN


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Eyesore wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
GAYMEN

This thread has gone off topic, I'm going to delete it.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:50 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
metalNESS wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
AMEN


to


Eyesore wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Legacy Of The Night wrote:
GAYMEN

This thread has gone off topic, I'm going to delete it.



Not in Helheim mo' fo'.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:37 am 
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Wow, you buy Dragon Quest 8, play it for 38 hours in 6 days somehow and finally decide to catch up abit and everything has hit the fan.

I agree, this needs to stop.

I think everyone just wasted their time and now I am wasting Dragon Quest 8 time, so Im gone.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:47 am 
Dragon Warrior I rules all!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:49 am 
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Eyesore wrote:
Dragon Warrior I rules all!


I lied, Im not gone.

And you cant try to be elite when you dont even use its original Japanese name, foool!

Dragon Quest > Dragon Warrior


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:53 am 
The Silent Man wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Dragon Warrior I rules all!


I lied, Im not gone.

And you cant try to be elite when you dont even use its original Japanese name, foool!

Dragon Quest > Dragon Warrior

I didn't play the Jap version! I actually still own an NES, my parents were too poor to buy me 2, 3 and 4 when I was little so I bought them I was like 25. Hahaha. I have a ton of old kick ass NES games!


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Eyesore wrote:
The Silent Man wrote:
Eyesore wrote:
Dragon Warrior I rules all!


I lied, Im not gone.

And you cant try to be elite when you dont even use its original Japanese name, foool!

Dragon Quest > Dragon Warrior

I didn't play the Jap version! I actually still own an NES, my parents were too poor to buy me 2, 3 and 4 when I was little so I bought them I was like 25. Hahaha. I have a ton of old kick ass NES games!


I didnt play the Jap version either, I just hate when americans change names of things. Though sometimes it needs to be done because there is a prick who named his dogs ankle by the same thing and trademarked it.

I also have some old NES games still: Wizards & Warriors, Ninja Gaiden 2: The Hardest Game We Could Muster... I also have a bag full o' other ones but its lost in 1 of 3 possible closets.


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http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/nes/fceultra.html


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Well I'm glad he's gone for the third and (hopefully) final time. Normally I'm very amiable and tolerant, and sometimes even diplomatic; but that fool really tried my patience. When was the last time someone pissed me off enough to launch a vicious tirade at them? Never. That was until Valefor came back with his holier-than-thou attitude. Now I can mellow out again. 8)


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:56 pm 
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Mike rules. Image Image


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in the votes of the V. and Eyesore related topics i voted for V. but that doesn't mean shit actually..the only reason why i did that is because i like V. and he at least knows his music unlike many others here(not implying anyone, expecially not the more frequent posters) but there is sth called as freedom of speech BUT i believe there are lines..friendly 'flame wars' like there are 400 a day here are funny but often as well very annoying..keep it in private then. I for one will try to focus more on music and debate and less on flaming and trying to be funny. I've stated before that i thought the forum was getting pretty rotten to the core but i know i've had a slight part in that. Let us all grow up now, ok?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 2:44 pm 
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Yeah, I was beginning to wonder if this info was true at all. :lol:

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Metal Reviews is a Swiss-based, English language website that offers weekly reviews of the latest metal and metal-related album releases. The site includes a forum where the reviews are discussed by a variety of users. The community is small and closely-knit, and many visitors have commented on how friendly the atmosphere is in the forum.


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Readers are welcomed to comment on all posted content in the site's forum. A point of pride is the lack of metal-related elitism that plagues other heavy metal web forums.


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:00 pm 
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Yeah, I was beginning to wonder if this info was true at all. :lol:

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Metal Reviews is a Swiss-based, English language website that offers weekly reviews of the latest metal and metal-related album releases. The site includes a forum where the reviews are discussed by a variety of users. The community is small and closely-knit, and many visitors have commented on how friendly the atmosphere is in the forum.


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Readers are welcomed to comment on all posted content in the site's forum. A point of pride is the lack of metal-related elitism that plagues other heavy metal web forums.



Ya, who the hell wrote that?? Especially the second paragraph..


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