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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:50 pm 
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Don't you mean... WORST NILE ALBUM?

Of course you don't. But, that's what I think.

Black Seeds is their only notable work. Amongst... is okay at best. But, Black Seeds has Black Seeds Of Vengeance, Defiling The Gates Of Ishtar, Masturbating The War God, Multitude Of Foes, Chapter For Transforming Into A Snake, Nas Ankhu Khan She En Asbiu, AND To Dream Of Ur. Dead Machine, you mentioned 3 of these, yet they are Nile's best. But, don't worry Nile over all is a mediocre band, so maybe you're point about this album being mediocre is standable (on my part.). However, you went off about progression, and Nile's lack there of on this latest album, but basically went verbal orgasm for ITDS?


Yes.

I'm not going to explain myself in the same fucking words for the ninth time this thread, so if you want an explanation, read the damn review again or look at earlier comments.


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I hope you aren't saying what I think you're saying. That album compares to Mortician at its fast points, and compares to sleep at any other point. And I'm pretty sure Mortician (general association) and the concept of SLEEP have been around a lot longer than Nile, aka the creators of the most conceited, and BORING album ever made, ie ITDS. Fuck that album.

Oh, and I enjoy Mortician (at a weird level, which is why I find myself thinking of them whilst cringing at the sound of ITDS.), and that's about all the compliment I'll ever give ITDS.


OK, congrats. It's wonderful that you hate ITDS. Really wonderful.


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Wonderful and hard to figure. :?


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It's not hard to figure. ITDS plays fucking sound clips that are supposed to be it's Egyptian flair... Yeah, right. It sounds all Hollywood, and conceited. They fail utterly, where as in previous attempts their brutality mixed with the ancient texts reborn by demonic choirs seemingly on hand at the studio itself! That's organic sound! When they make you feel like you are there. Not when their main theme is a faded memory of their flavor of the month past, all RAP-like in its stylings. Pitiful.

Aaron, tsk tsk, it's a matter of taste, but debate is fun.


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I was confused by your taste, you didn't need to explain yourself again. I think everyone gets your point by now.


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NewFriendAncientEnemy wrote:
It's not hard to figure. ITDS plays fucking sound clips that are supposed to be it's Egyptian flair... Yeah, right. It sounds all Hollywood, and conceited. They fail utterly, where as in previous attempts their brutality mixed with the ancient texts reborn by demonic choirs seemingly on hand at the studio itself! That's organic sound! When they make you feel like you are there. Not when their main theme is a faded memory of their flavor of the month past, all RAP-like in its stylings. Pitiful.

Aaron, tsk tsk, it's a matter of taste, but debate is fun.


The intro to Unas Slayer of the Gods is hollywood?

Jesus, man, JESUS.

ITDS also had pretty much a flawless tracklisting. One weak track is all I can think of.


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NewFriendAncientEnemy wrote:
It's not hard to figure. ITDS plays fucking sound clips that are supposed to be it's Egyptian flair... Yeah, right. It sounds all Hollywood, and conceited. They fail utterly, where as in previous attempts their brutality mixed with the ancient texts reborn by demonic choirs seemingly on hand at the studio itself! That's organic sound! When they make you feel like you are there. Not when their main theme is a faded memory of their flavor of the month past, all RAP-like in its stylings. Pitiful.

Aaron, tsk tsk, it's a matter of taste, but debate is fun.


The intro to Unas Slayer of the Gods is hollywood?

Jesus, man, JESUS.

ITDS also had pretty much a flawless tracklisting. One weak track is all I can think of.


Unas Slayer of the Gods is completly orginal, and i belive it clocks in above 10 min or so? I think he just hates Eygypt, dont hate the player hate the game.


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After having slowly digested this album over a period of a thousand years, I have come to the conclusion that criticisms based on a lack of change are unfair. Copying is one thing, but perfecting is a quite another. This review is biased and should be ignored as such.


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After having slowly digested this album over a period of a thousand years, I have come to the conclusion that criticisms based on a lack of change are unfair. Copying is one thing, but perfecting is a quite another. This review is biased and should be ignored as such.


There's no reason to listen to this album. You can just listen to the older ones again and get the same experience. That irks me for this band. Maybe it doesn't for you, but it certainly isn't 'biased' as such, it's called a difference in opinion.

Plus, the songwriting is weak.


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Dead Machine wrote:
GeneralDiomedes wrote:
After having slowly digested this album over a period of a thousand years, I have come to the conclusion that criticisms based on a lack of change are unfair. Copying is one thing, but perfecting is a quite another. This review is biased and should be ignored as such.


There's no reason to listen to this album. You can just listen to the older ones again and get the same experience. That irks me for this band. Maybe it doesn't for you, but it certainly isn't 'biased' as such, it's called a difference in opinion.

Plus, the songwriting is weak.


There are some songs which are kind of innovative such as Lashed To The Slave Stick


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There are some songs which are kind of innovative such as Lashed To The Slave Stick


I detested that song.


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There are some songs which are kind of innovative such as Lashed To The Slave Stick


I detested that song.


You're a miserable bastard. The whole album innovates, by taking a step sideways rather than forwards. It's Nile's sound, stripped down and charged up. Not a weak song on there, and I like it better than Amongst The Catcacombs Of Nephren-Ka. You can't deny it's a professional effort.


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You're a miserable bastard. The whole album innovates, by taking a step sideways rather than forwards. It's Nile's sound, stripped down and charged up. Not a weak song on there, and I like it better than Amongst The Catcacombs Of Nephren-Ka. You can't deny it's a professional effort.


You're a tin-eared plebian. The whole album stagnates by borrowing shit from every other album that they've released. It's Nile's sound, diluted and distilled until no drop of soul remains. Lots of weak songs on there, and it pales in comparison to Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka. Professional doesn't mean good.


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You're a miserable bastard. The whole album innovates, by taking a step sideways rather than forwards. It's Nile's sound, stripped down and charged up. Not a weak song on there, and I like it better than Amongst The Catcacombs Of Nephren-Ka. You can't deny it's a professional effort.


You're a tin-eared plebian. The whole album stagnates by borrowing shit from every other album that they've released. It's Nile's sound, diluted and distilled until no drop of soul remains. Lots of weak songs on there, and it pales in comparison to Amongst the Catacombs of Nephren-Ka. Professional doesn't mean good.


Lots of soul on there! And how you can say the songs are weak...give me an example!


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Lots of soul on there! And how you can say the songs are weak...give me an example!


Certainly: All of them besides the ones I mentioned in my review are either derivative or weak. User-Maat-Re is weak, Sacrifice Unto Sebek is weak... you get the idea.

I'm beginning to think I overrated it.


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Lots of soul on there! And how you can say the songs are weak...give me an example!


Certainly: All of them besides the ones I mentioned in my review are either derivative or weak. User-Maat-Re is weak, Sacrifice Unto Sebek is weak... you get the idea.

I'm beginning to think I overrated it.


Ah, either derivative or weak, you snuck that in, didn't you! So, they may be not as different as you like (Jesus, they've only done four albums, and this one isn't that similar), but they have done a great job of it, from the booklet explaining the songs, to the songs themselves. What were you expecting, techno beats and horror film samples? This is fucking NILE. With this album they've reset what their sound is, instead of being a band that made a good album or two, they have become important in their own right.

And User-Maat-Re rules, how can you not like that opening riff, then the vocals come in...awesome.


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Ah, either derivative or weak, you snuck that in, didn't you! So, they may be not as different as you like (Jesus, they've only done four albums, and this one isn't that similar), but they have done a great job of it, from the booklet explaining the songs, to the songs themselves. What were you expecting, techno beats and horror film samples? This is fucking NILE. With this album they've reset what their sound is, instead of being a band that made a good album or two, they have become important in their own right.


So... they weren't important before this album?

I'm not expecting techno beats and horrormovie samples, I'm expecting progression, considering the differences between their other three albums.

Zad, if I wanted to hear an inferior version of Sarcophagus, I'd just listen to Sarcophagus again.

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And User-Maat-Re rules, how can you not like that opening riff, then the vocals come in...awesome.


It sounds exactly like Unas Slayer of the Gods except weak.

I'm not going to concede or budge a single inch on my opinion of this album. I've listened to it more than nine times, I've thought about it, held comparitive listening sessions, and read all their post-Annihilation interviews.

So one must wonder why in the hell you're still arguing with me.


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Ah, either derivative or weak, you snuck that in, didn't you! So, they may be not as different as you like (Jesus, they've only done four albums, and this one isn't that similar), but they have done a great job of it, from the booklet explaining the songs, to the songs themselves. What were you expecting, techno beats and horror film samples? This is fucking NILE. With this album they've reset what their sound is, instead of being a band that made a good album or two, they have become important in their own right.


So... they weren't important before this album?

I'm not expecting techno beats and horrormovie samples, I'm expecting progression, considering the differences between their other three albums.

Zad, if I wanted to hear an inferior version of Sarcophagus, I'd just listen to Sarcophagus again.

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And User-Maat-Re rules, how can you not like that opening riff, then the vocals come in...awesome.


It sounds exactly like Unas Slayer of the Gods except weak.

I'm not going to concede or budge a single inch on my opinion of this album. I've listened to it more than nine times, I've thought about it, held comparitive listening sessions, and read all their post-Annihilation interviews.

So one must wonder why in the hell you're still arguing with me.

Mainly to shake your unshakable belief that you're the most argumentative bastard on these forums. You're not.

And it's an inferior version of Sarcofagus? Doesn't stop you from listening to shitty bands, now, does it?

Their first albums were getting them to this point, when they can just make an album. Doesn't need to be prog, just enjoy it for what it is.


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Mainly to shake your unshakable belief that you're the most argumentative bastard on these forums. You're not.


You're not shaking any of my beliefs, Zadok.

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And it's an inferior version of Sarcofagus? Doesn't stop you from listening to shitty bands, now, does it?


Like Bolt-Thrower? No, I suppose not, considering that I enjoy all the bands I listen to and don't think that any of them are shitty.

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Their first albums were getting them to this point, when they can just make an album. Doesn't need to be prog, just enjoy it for what it is.


I refuse to enjoy what boils down to an inferior greatest-hits compilation with lousy songs on it. If you enjoy it, that's fine, enjoy it. I don't, and never will, aside from the songs I said I like in the review.


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You're not shaking any of my beliefs, Zadok.

Hey, I can use your first name too.

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Like Bolt-Thrower? No, I suppose not, considering that I enjoy all the bands I listen to and don't think that any of them are shitty.

I actually meant Static X, but never mind. It's funny, this whole "Zad hates Bolt Thrower" thing's a bit of an urban myth. I never actually said they were shitty, just that their songs weere very similar and so put me off.

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I refuse to enjoy what boils down to an inferior greatest-hits compilation with lousy songs on it. If you enjoy it, that's fine, enjoy it. I don't, and never will, aside from the songs I said I like in the review.

All your deviant opinion.


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Zadok wrote:
Hey, I can use your first name too.


I just like your first name, which is why I used it. It's a cool name, Zadok.

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I actually meant Static X, but never mind. It's funny, this whole "Zad hates Bolt Thrower" thing's a bit of an urban myth. I never actually said they were shitty, just that their songs weere very similar and so put me off.


Hey, why stop at Static-X? I also listen to Dope.

Duly noted.

I enjoy them for different reasons than I enjoy Nile.

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Well, obviously.


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