The General Politics Thread

C_Chulainn

It's happening, the secularization of the Middle East is underway and with it the vindication of the theories about the evolutionary nature of societies. Better ones will supplant the others.

JokerMachine

It's a pity Keith Olbermann is off the air. I imagine he would have had much to say about these things.

C_Chulainn

JokerMachine, you really really really want to get out of the army.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n4/htdocs/full.php">http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n4/htdocs/full.php</a>

cry_of_the_banshee

JokerMachine wrote
It's a pity Keith Olbermann is off the air. I imagine he would have had much to say about these things.

Keef Olbermann is a failure, a lunatic and a douche nozzle.
How many times has he been fired now?

cry_of_the_banshee

FrigidSymphony wrote
It's happening, the secularization of the Middle East is underway and with it the vindication of the theories about the evolutionary nature of societies. Better ones will supplant the others.

That remains to be seen.

Karmakosmonaut

cry of the banshee wrote
FrigidSymphony wrote
It's happening, the secularization of the Middle East is underway and with it the vindication of the theories about the evolutionary nature of societies. Better ones will supplant the others.
That remains to be seen.

Indeed. To think otherwise would be naive.

Goat

Rather disappointed with the careful diplomatic reaction of western governments to this, not least our own. Reactions from all sorts of people is that democratic candidates for leader will gain more widespread support than Islamist ones. The passion and clear desire for democracy is very moving.

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhpGzIpJPQs">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhpGzIpJPQs</a>

JokerMachine

FrigidSymphony wrote
JokerMachine, you really really really want to get out of the army.<a class="postlink" href="http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n4/htdocs/full.php">http://www.viceland.com/int/v13n4/htdocs/full.php</a>

Don't think I don't know.

noodles

loll

traptunderice

We need to keep together with our tried and true allies, i.e., other white nations. Fuck the third world that we've fucked over.

C_Chulainn

International social reform needs to start being modeled on the European model rather than assuming that AMERICA FUCK YEAH is the basis for some sort of super progressive freedom bringing democracy. Eurocentrism is the way.

JokerMachine

FrigidSymphony wrote
International social reform needs to start being modeled on the European model rather than assuming that AMERICA FUCK YEAH is the basis for some sort of super progressive freedom bringing democracy. Eurocentrism is the way.

Agreed. America lost that position as "TEH GRAETEST CUNTRY IN DA WERLD", if it ever had it, sometime in the last 30 or so years.

North_From_Here

traptunderice wrote
We need to keep together with our tried and true allies, i.e., other white nations. Fuck the third world that we've fucked over.

And who was saying that? I think the US has a closer affinity to Britain/Australia/Canada through common language/English nation beginnings etc; I don't see the same natural ally tendency in other European nations.

traptunderice

emperorblackdoom wrote
traptunderice wrote
We need to keep together with our tried and true allies, i.e., other white nations. Fuck the third world that we've fucked over.
And who was saying that? I think the US has a closer affinity to Britain/Australia/Canada through common language/English nation beginnings etc; I don't see the same natural ally tendency in other European nations.

V basically said we should stick to our close allies and do nothing else unless we can mutually benefit from the alliance. I'm not a huge interventionist but I can't consider it moral after all America has done in the last 60 years to just close shop and say you people are on your own. Then again considering how we fuck over everyone we help maybe we would be better off to keep our dick in our pants and let them solve their own problems. Then the problem is the military dictatorships we've established who don't mind quashing resistance with force. I don't know maybe you don't consider the third world as having been royally fucked by the West.

North_From_Here

traptunderice wrote
emperorblackdoom wrote
traptunderice wrote
We need to keep together with our tried and true allies, i.e., other white nations. Fuck the third world that we've fucked over.
And who was saying that? I think the US has a closer affinity to Britain/Australia/Canada through common language/English nation beginnings etc; I don't see the same natural ally tendency in other European nations.
V basically said we should stick to our close allies and do nothing else unless we can mutually benefit from the alliance. I'm not a huge interventionist but I can't consider it moral after all America has done in the last 60 years to just close shop and say you people are on your own. Then again considering how we fuck over everyone we help maybe we would be better off to keep our dick in our pants and let them solve their own problems. Then the problem is the military dictatorships we've established who don't mind quashing resistance with force. I don't know maybe you don't consider the third world as having been royally fucked by the West.

No, I agree with you on the third world. The excuse of the Cold War allowed the propping up of several dictatorships...on both sides. A sad relic of great power rivalry.

stevelovesmoonspell

cry of the banshee wrote
JokerMachine wrote
It's a pity Keith Olbermann is off the air. I imagine he would have had much to say about these things.
Keef Olbermann is a failure, a lunatic and a douche nozzle.How many times has he been fired now?

Compared to the neocons on FAUX he's a saint.

cry_of_the_banshee

stevelovesmoonspell wrote
cry of the banshee wrote
JokerMachine wrote
It's a pity Keith Olbermann is off the air. I imagine he would have had much to say about these things.
Keef Olbermann is a failure, a lunatic and a douche nozzle.How many times has he been fired now?
Compared to the neocons on FAUX he's a saint.

How so?
Seems to me, if you are going to criticize one, you have to criticize the other.
Keefie is just as much a partisan hack as the most partisan hack on Fox.
Same with Tingles and Shultz and the rest.

C_Chulainn

Olbermann, partisan? I've seen enough clips of him ripping the hell out of democrats as well, mainly blue collar ones.

stevelovesmoonspell

cry of the banshee wrote
stevelovesmoonspell wrote
cry of the banshee wrote
JokerMachine wrote
It's a pity Keith Olbermann is off the air. I imagine he would have had much to say about these things.
Keef Olbermann is a failure, a lunatic and a douche nozzle.How many times has he been fired now?
Compared to the neocons on FAUX he's a saint.
How so?Seems to me, if you are going to criticize one, you have to criticize the other.Keefie is just as much a partisan hack as the most partisan hack on Fox.Same with Tingles and Shultz and the rest.

I actually find Schultz and Matthews to be the most partisan, at certain times Olbermann was critical of Obama, though nowhere near as vitriolic as he was towards Bush. Nowhere in my post was I suggesting he wasn't partisan, keeping in mind that both corporate stations and conversations about politics are less about "truth" and more about evangelism. Olbermann performed his role as a corporate shill for MSNBC, and with Comcast picking up MSNBC, Maddow and them maybe next.

EDIT: Schultz needs to be shipped onto a leper colony.

cry_of_the_banshee

FrigidSymphony wrote
Olbermann, partisan? I've seen enough clips of him ripping the hell out of democrats as well, mainly blue collar ones.

Are you honestly trying to tell me Keef is non-partisan?
:lol:
If he has criticized Dems, it is only for not being liberal enough.

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