dead1 wroteI think NWOAHM just never took off.
If you mean as a label, then I pretty much agree. I don't think it was ever widely used at all. I think some journalists and labels tried to coin it, but didn't catch on. My argument here is that NWOAHM was never really a major term that was usurped by the use of the term metalcore later, which is what I got from your original post. Funny enough, I remember Killswitch being referred to as straight up metalcore back when they first came out 😛 And we could both probably find mags referring to them as both, lol.
dead1 wroteI nearly always saw the term Speed Metal applied to Helloween.By the way Metallica had "Power Metal" on a business card in the very early 1980's.
Would have made sense for Metallica to be referred to/referring to themselves as power metal in the early 80's. Especially on KEA and pre-KEA. I wouldn't be surprised to hear them being referred to as thrash, speed or power metal during that time. Early on, speed metal/power metal were defined by simply being a faster, more aggressive trad. heavy metal and thrash kind of grew out of that, so any band in that spectrum could be called any of the above using that criteria.I agree speed metal was probably more commonly used at one point during the 80's, but the two were still used to describe a lot of the same bands in the 80's.
dead1 wroteSaw several interviews in mags referring to Pantera as Power Metal or even "Power Violence" (which I think is a punk term?). This was about 1994-96 so Far Beyond Driven and Great Southern Trendkill.
Makes sense that some would use it to describe Pantera specifically because of the album name...maybe even at that point to counter the growing power metal genre. Did they actually describe any other groove band as such though?Weird that they'd have described them as power violence. They don't have much in common with actual power violence. But I've seen some strange things written in mags, too haha.
dead1 wroteCould be regional. First I heard of Doom Metal was all the Death Metal vocalled Doom i.e. Katatonia, MDB, Paradise Lost, Anathema etc etc.Other than Catherdral and Candlemass, I never even heard of Pentagram, St Vitus etc until the mid 2000's when rags ala Terrorizer and some of the locals got into them.
Those bands (MDB etc.) adopted the doom label after the trad. doom bands. The sub-genre itself evolved through the darker, groovier trad. metal bands that eventually came to define its sound. Death/doom bands took fairly big influence from 80's death metal, obviously, but also from "first wave bm" bands (more and more I come to dislike that term lol) like Venom, Hellhammer and Mercyful Fate (themselves being stylistically more traditional doom), and probably from quite a few traditional doom bands, but there were definitely traditional doom bands defining themselves as doom before MDB and co. came along. Don't know if Pentagram and St. Vitus thought of themselves specifically that way, but Candlemass definitely did as did others like them...so would make sense that St. Vitus and Pentagram would have been associated with them.
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