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Ehhm, Mnemic are not from Sweden... They are from Denmark.

A bit better research next time would be nice...

Am I the only one who thought that this review didn't live up to the intelligent and argumentative standards that metalreviews.com normally set?

Yeah, I emailed Aaron about that before the review posted. I guess he didn't get it in time.

This review it's not good....I'll give an 85 to this album...I see more Meshuggah influences than Soilwork ones...I really agree with the Fear Factory comparisons except when you say they are a rip off and they go like 12 times repeating the same riff...the drumming and as more and more to this record than you said like plain mathematical beats...yes there are multiple samples and they are great...the guitars are between FF, Meshuggah and a BIT of Soilwork and not like you said Soilwork ripped off...And I trully liked the Duran Duran cover...it's a classic and I believe it's not for beeing a great music from them but because it's just a simple, effective and legendary music by them...you know, Mechanical Spin Phenomena is fuckin booooooring disc...not bad...but plain booring because in that record you can listen to the "12 in a row" riffing that you mentioned, even MORE! This album is fucking dynamic, it's catchy, it's great! So they are influenced by Fear Factory, big deal!!! I love Fear Factory and I don't compare Mnemic to them like you did...anyway...try to write a review that concentrates more in the band music than trying to see were are the rip offs...

I support OrDoS, great band, great album, one of my favs from 2004!!

So I guess I should ignore the review and check it out?

On the Sweden thing... my mistake.



If by that you mean that it sounds as though they stole Soilwork riffs and tailored them until they sounded a bit like Meshuggah riffs, I'll agree. However, anything that imitates Fear Factory will, of course, also sound like Meshuggah.



Saying that they repeated the same riff 12 times was hyperbole.

They ARE a rip off. They share essentially all the same influences. However, on this record, they seem to be pretending that they aren't a Fear Factory rip-off, and this is their demise.



Some of the riffs sound almost exactly like riffs off Natural Born Chaos. The vocalist sounds like Speed.



I really have no idea what you're saying here.



I wrote a LOT about the band's music: enough to note that it's all essentially patchwork stuff stolen from other bands and reconfigured.

This album was rushed, that's probably the reason for the lack of quality songs.

Note: I listened to the whole CD about nine times over, and by then I was utterly, utterly sick of it and had listened to it enough to note all the stolen riffs.

review is lame and gives no real presentation of album quality...
this album is not great, but sure is better than their debut and writing Fear Factory over n over again is making me sick...
Fear Factory is boring as hell... Mnemic is far better... When you know that they are so very young and once you see them live on stage you will say that as well...

guys play this album... you'll like it 4 sure... it's not 100 out of 100 but sure is better than 57...

This is actually a great album. It's definately not a carbon copy of Fear Factory. Sure they take some influence from them, but they manage to create an original sound. I was quite dissapointed by this review. Great album, I'd give it an 85/100, at least.

If Fear Factory sound is mentioned then Meshuggah sound has to be mentioned? Than are FF a rip-off of Meshuggah?

"Some of the riffs sound almost exactly like riffs off Natural Born Chaos." :shock: Is it really? I really don't think so....

The Duran Duran cover is great. That's what I meant. You had to have a friend telling you that this is not their best music? Did you even know it?

By the way...great style you invented there... Fear Factory Rip-off music...well you forgot to include the Meshuggah and Soilwork influences in that Rip-off too...and also you need to change a lot of styles in manu reviews in this site...like In Flames Rip-offs or Mayhem Rip-offs or even Dimmu Borgir Rip-offs...Tiamat Rip-offs, Morbid Angel Rip-offs, Megadeth Rip-offs, Helloween Rip-offs...and it goes on and on....(just gave this examples but there are many more)

No, but both of those bands have a similar riffing style, though Fear Factory's take on it is not nearly as complex as Meshuggah's.



I believe I noted that. Listen to Natural Born Chaos, and then to the songs I noted. If you hear no similarities, well, then that's what you hear.



No, but I hate all 13 of the Duran Duran songs I've heard, this wasn't one of them, and so I asked a friend who likes them if Wild Boys was a good song. I listened to Mnemic's cover, and I disliked it, but that's probably Duran Duran's fault rather then Mnemic's. It's a rubbish song.



They're not as prevelant in the music, so I didn't see as much of a need to include them.



I have no problem when a band takes another bands' style and plays around with it, or changes it to fit them. I DO have a problem with bands that display this so blatantly and barely bother to change the riffs around. Mnemic is one of those on this disc.

The problem with this is that none of you seem to realize that this is my opinion, and is just as valid as any opinion to be voiced. That's what critics are for: opinions that are voiced with the help of publications. It's impossible to satisfy an audience unless you read all of their minds and give what you're reviewing the average of those scores. Since I cannot satisfy all of you, I can only write scores that I agree with, and I absolutely refuse to compromise my critical integrity and change the score or the review. It wouldn't be right.

If you want to write the reviews for this website, then mail them in. Become a reviewer and disagree with me: I'll welcome the debate. But don't rail uselessly against me, it will do nothing. I can continue to argue, but I won't change my opinion, because it's what I agree with.

The score will remain intact.

Good day to you all.

This was a good review because he made a point to go over EVERY song on the album. And 57 isn't a bad score considering how much he hates it. So... Blah.


Talk about in depth reviewing. At least he didn't give it a 70 so people wouldn't bitch.

That's true, but it doesn't mean it's a good review. He said about 90 times that it's a fear factory rip off!!! Once would have done the trick too, the reviews too long, it's get boring when you repeat the same thing for about every song...

I don't think that talking about each song is a good thing for a reviewer to do (unless it's for a huge release, which this is not). I don't need to be told that the band sounds like Fear Factory for every single song.

Anyway, I heard more Soilwork influences than anything. I didn't really like what I heard, but I don't think this was the best review...

Wild Boys is probably the best Duran Duran song they could have chosen to cover, as it is the least melodic (actually kind of industrial sounding) of all their hits and has the song structure most conducent to adding distorted guitars IMO. It fits better with the style of this band. Any other song I think would only work if covered by either a pop-punk outfit like Me Me and the Gimme Gimmes or possibly Gamma Ray.

Unfortunately, they absolutely butcher it - the singing sounds strained at times, and they gloss over some of the biggest hooks of the song with layers of guitars and effects and drums (aka noise). For a lesson in how to successfully cover 80s britpop, refer to the In Flames cover of Everything Counts.

an opinion is all well and good but when ur review tries to rail into our heads that ur opinion is the only one to be had then ur going to get some guff from the ppl who do enjoy the album

A review must be a well argumented opinion, but that's not the main point of a review. It must be as objective as possible in describing the sound of an album, and how to compare that to older albums by the band (something for the newbies and something for the people who already know the band). Ofcourse you should describe a little how well everything is executed, and the score implies that too. If you think a review is just an opinion and is as valid as any other opinion, then I honestly can't see why not everyone can write reviews, and why the review you wrote is better than a review saying "it sucks don't buy it 57/100".

I listned to samples they sound more like a very good quality Nu-metal to me, I don't think they sound like Fear Factory.

I don't really like Mnemic, i listened to two songs, liquid and deathbox (dont know if they are from this album). I think its pretty boring music.