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Worst... Cover Art... Ever. I would think for something like The Divine Comedy, Sepultura would have some beautifully drawn/painted cover art to reflect the epic nature of the album. But instead they opt for a picture that looks like a fifth grader could've drawn it. Definitely detracts from what's supposed to be Sep's "musical epic."

Anyway, I've heard one song from this album and was pretty underwhelmed. Derrick's vocals have certainly improved since Against and Nation, but still lack the power of Max's vocals. That whole "hardcore" style of music never really appealed to me. And yes, Soulfly is a much better band than Sepultura right now (for the record, they always were better than Green-era Sep).

I agree with one of the posters here. Sepultura is the kind of band that will always persevere and continue to quietly produce/release albums regardless of whether or not anybody really cares (notice this album didn't get the "Major Event" label in its review) - a lot of people probably don't even realize Sepultura still exists. With that in mind, I guess they should be commended for having that much passion for their music (most bands would have hung it up at this point in their careers). Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean we have to like it.


It was me. And how can you say Soulfly is better? Observe:
Soulfly= Nu -> Thrash
Sepultura= Death -> Thrash -> Groove -> Nu -> Hardcore -> Thrash

They're going back to their roots ( :roll: ) whilst Soulfly are just changing to reflect metalcore. And I stand by it: Green is a better vocalist than Max.


Old Sepultura (ie. Sepultur with Max) certainly beats the pants off Soulfly. But Soulfly certainly beats the pants off new Sepultura. Of course, this is just my opinion.

The style of music a band plays means nothing compared to the actual quality. I'd much rather listen to "good nu-metal" than "bad thrash metal." And Sepultura hasn't released a serious thrash metal song since Biotech is Godzilla.


Um, WHAT? Biotech Is Godzilla is all-out Hardcore! Didn't they even get Jello Biafra in for it?


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Zad wrote:
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Worst... Cover Art... Ever. I would think for something like The Divine Comedy, Sepultura would have some beautifully drawn/painted cover art to reflect the epic nature of the album. But instead they opt for a picture that looks like a fifth grader could've drawn it. Definitely detracts from what's supposed to be Sep's "musical epic."

Anyway, I've heard one song from this album and was pretty underwhelmed. Derrick's vocals have certainly improved since Against and Nation, but still lack the power of Max's vocals. That whole "hardcore" style of music never really appealed to me. And yes, Soulfly is a much better band than Sepultura right now (for the record, they always were better than Green-era Sep).

I agree with one of the posters here. Sepultura is the kind of band that will always persevere and continue to quietly produce/release albums regardless of whether or not anybody really cares (notice this album didn't get the "Major Event" label in its review) - a lot of people probably don't even realize Sepultura still exists. With that in mind, I guess they should be commended for having that much passion for their music (most bands would have hung it up at this point in their careers). Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean we have to like it.


It was me. And how can you say Soulfly is better? Observe:
Soulfly= Nu -> Thrash
Sepultura= Death -> Thrash -> Groove -> Nu -> Hardcore -> Thrash

They're going back to their roots ( :roll: ) whilst Soulfly are just changing to reflect metalcore. And I stand by it: Green is a better vocalist than Max.


Old Sepultura (ie. Sepultur with Max) certainly beats the pants off Soulfly. But Soulfly certainly beats the pants off new Sepultura. Of course, this is just my opinion.

The style of music a band plays means nothing compared to the actual quality. I'd much rather listen to "good nu-metal" than "bad thrash metal." And Sepultura hasn't released a serious thrash metal song since Biotech is Godzilla.


Um, WHAT? Biotech Is Godzilla is all-out Hardcore! Didn't they even get Jello Biafra in for it?


[pedant/]Although Jello Biafra is a punk musician, not a hardcore one[pedant/]


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Something I noticed on Blabbermouth's ad banner:
“Sepultura’s most important body of work since “Roots.” Period, the end.” - Amp Magazine.

A glowing endorsement there. :lol: I love when these shitrags try to talk Metal.


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rio wrote:
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Seinfeld26 wrote:
Zad wrote:
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Worst... Cover Art... Ever. I would think for something like The Divine Comedy, Sepultura would have some beautifully drawn/painted cover art to reflect the epic nature of the album. But instead they opt for a picture that looks like a fifth grader could've drawn it. Definitely detracts from what's supposed to be Sep's "musical epic."

Anyway, I've heard one song from this album and was pretty underwhelmed. Derrick's vocals have certainly improved since Against and Nation, but still lack the power of Max's vocals. That whole "hardcore" style of music never really appealed to me. And yes, Soulfly is a much better band than Sepultura right now (for the record, they always were better than Green-era Sep).

I agree with one of the posters here. Sepultura is the kind of band that will always persevere and continue to quietly produce/release albums regardless of whether or not anybody really cares (notice this album didn't get the "Major Event" label in its review) - a lot of people probably don't even realize Sepultura still exists. With that in mind, I guess they should be commended for having that much passion for their music (most bands would have hung it up at this point in their careers). Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean we have to like it.


It was me. And how can you say Soulfly is better? Observe:
Soulfly= Nu -> Thrash
Sepultura= Death -> Thrash -> Groove -> Nu -> Hardcore -> Thrash

They're going back to their roots ( :roll: ) whilst Soulfly are just changing to reflect metalcore. And I stand by it: Green is a better vocalist than Max.


Old Sepultura (ie. Sepultur with Max) certainly beats the pants off Soulfly. But Soulfly certainly beats the pants off new Sepultura. Of course, this is just my opinion.

The style of music a band plays means nothing compared to the actual quality. I'd much rather listen to "good nu-metal" than "bad thrash metal." And Sepultura hasn't released a serious thrash metal song since Biotech is Godzilla.


Um, WHAT? Biotech Is Godzilla is all-out Hardcore! Didn't they even get Jello Biafra in for it?


[pedant/]Although Jello Biafra is a punk musician, not a hardcore one[pedant/]


Dead Kennedys = punkish hardcore. Not hardcore punk.


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Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
Zad wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
Worst... Cover Art... Ever. I would think for something like The Divine Comedy, Sepultura would have some beautifully drawn/painted cover art to reflect the epic nature of the album. But instead they opt for a picture that looks like a fifth grader could've drawn it. Definitely detracts from what's supposed to be Sep's "musical epic."

Anyway, I've heard one song from this album and was pretty underwhelmed. Derrick's vocals have certainly improved since Against and Nation, but still lack the power of Max's vocals. That whole "hardcore" style of music never really appealed to me. And yes, Soulfly is a much better band than Sepultura right now (for the record, they always were better than Green-era Sep).

I agree with one of the posters here. Sepultura is the kind of band that will always persevere and continue to quietly produce/release albums regardless of whether or not anybody really cares (notice this album didn't get the "Major Event" label in its review) - a lot of people probably don't even realize Sepultura still exists. With that in mind, I guess they should be commended for having that much passion for their music (most bands would have hung it up at this point in their careers). Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean we have to like it.


It was me. And how can you say Soulfly is better? Observe:
Soulfly= Nu -> Thrash
Sepultura= Death -> Thrash -> Groove -> Nu -> Hardcore -> Thrash

They're going back to their roots ( :roll: ) whilst Soulfly are just changing to reflect metalcore. And I stand by it: Green is a better vocalist than Max.


Old Sepultura (ie. Sepultur with Max) certainly beats the pants off Soulfly. But Soulfly certainly beats the pants off new Sepultura. Of course, this is just my opinion.

The style of music a band plays means nothing compared to the actual quality. I'd much rather listen to "good nu-metal" than "bad thrash metal." And Sepultura hasn't released a serious thrash metal song since Biotech is Godzilla.


Um, WHAT? Biotech Is Godzilla is all-out Hardcore! Didn't they even get Jello Biafra in for it?


[pedant/]Although Jello Biafra is a punk musician, not a hardcore one[pedant/]


Dead Kennedys = punkish hardcore. Not hardcore punk.


Not so. Deak Kennedys= Punk.

FACT


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Not so. Deak Kennedys= Punk.

FACT


Wikipedia has them down as hardcore punk, so I guess we're both wrong...


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P

Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

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Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


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rio wrote:
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


Not when I say it, it isn't.
Edit: you've got a point. But I still think they're more hardcore than punk.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


Not when I say it, it isn't.


Seems like I've been pwned.


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rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


Not when I say it, it isn't.


Seems like I've been pwned.


Bad joke, you were too quick to see the edit...


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Zad wrote:
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Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


Not when I say it, it isn't.


Seems like I've been pwned.


Bad joke, you were too quick to see the edit...


Hehe, well that's what I get for having nothing else to do :oops:

Hmm, well I have to say Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables will always be one of my favourite punk albums... none of this "core" madness 8)


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rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


Not when I say it, it isn't.


Seems like I've been pwned.


Bad joke, you were too quick to see the edit...


Hehe, well that's what I get for having nothing else to do :oops:

Hmm, well I have to say Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables will always be one of my favourite punk albums... none of this "core" madness 8)


You're a musical fascist. Not all core is bad.


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Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
Zad wrote:
rio wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Kennedys

Au contraire, wikipedia says "punk rock". :P


Look under "Genre", fool, over by the right.

rio wrote:
Plus, "hardcore punk" = A type of Punk :P :P


No, they're both subgenres of rock, so I win.


Hold your horses... you can't say "punkish hardcore=hardcore but hardcore punk=/=punk"! In both cases the second word is the actual genre it's a part of. :P


Not when I say it, it isn't.


Seems like I've been pwned.


Bad joke, you were too quick to see the edit...


Hehe, well that's what I get for having nothing else to do :oops:

Hmm, well I have to say Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables will always be one of my favourite punk albums... none of this "core" madness 8)


You're a musical fascist. Not all core is bad.


Not at all, but I lurve punk and don't want it to lose its greatest artists to semantics.


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Not at all, but I lurve punk and don't want it to lose its greatest artists.


The Sex Pistols were hardcore too, hurgle hur.


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Not at all, but I lurve punk and don't want it to lose its greatest artists.


The Sex Pistols were hardcore too, hurgle hur.


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Not at all, but I lurve punk and don't want it to lose its greatest artists.


The Sex Pistols were hardcore too, hurgle hur.


Image


Creepy...if you look at it upside-down, he looks sad.


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Not at all, but I lurve punk and don't want it to lose its greatest artists.


The Sex Pistols were hardcore too, hurgle hur.


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Creepy...if you look at it upside-down, he looks sad.

With a wacky beard.


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Mr Angry thinks the Dead Kennedys are punk. He also hasn't listened to the new Ace Vensepultura.


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