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PostPosted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 6:34 pm 
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I own Battles In The North, and Immortal are one of my favourite bands. At the moment Burzum and Behemoth Cds are hard to get and The only Satyricon album i can find anywhere is Now Diabolical which bored the hell out of me. Thanks for your recommendations though :)


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Mintrude wrote:
I own Battles In The North, and Immortal are one of my favourite bands. At the moment Burzum and Behemoth Cds are hard to get and The only Satyricon album i can find anywhere is Now Diabolical which bored the hell out of me. Thanks for your recommendations though :)


Where are you from? I'm from Poland and luckily all the Behemoth's stuff is available in every music show around. Burzum too, but the CDs are rather expensive :(


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I'm from Wales, where most music shops are hyper-global mega corporations, so it's pretty difficult to find any real obscure stuff. So where in Poland are you from? I have a good friend who's Polish, from the rural areas I think, but I'm not sure


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Mintrude wrote:
I'm from Wales, where most music shops are hyper-global mega corporations, so it's pretty difficult to find any real obscure stuff. So where in Poland are you from? I have a good friend who's Polish, from the rural areas I think, but I'm not sure


I'm from the south-western part of Poland. Near Wroclaw. Mostly hills and stuff... ;) I'm planning to go to England for the next summer holidays, so perhaps we could figure something out, and I could bring few Behemoth's CDs with me, and send them to you via Royal Mail...We shall see. :) They're rather cheap here. Not more than 10 Euro each :)


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thou hast angered thee master and king of Hades with thine ignorance of this thread, Satan is most displeased and demands penance, slay all purity and light, this album shall be thy weapon and thee shall not relent in thine quest to reclaim the purity of true Black Metal

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seriously though this album fucking rules


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Glad you like it, I agree. Btw, that Aeternus track didn't have particularly coherent vocals and you said you liked it, I'm wondering how consistent your rule is? I do have a number of funeral doom bands I could recommend, for example, but sometimes the vocals aren't that coherent.


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the rule was more for death metal then anything else, generally it applies to those bands like Cryptopsy where you can't even tell there are words in there, or those deadful wet-fart vocals I have heard on some death metal

funeral doom? HELL FUCKING YES PLEASE!!! having only two Mournful Congregation albums (Monad and Frost) plus Skepticism's Lead and Aether, Ahab's Divinity Of Oceans, Catacombs' In The Depths of R'lyeh and disEMBOWELMENT's disEMBOWELMENT is not enough


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RelentlessOblivion wrote:
deadful wet-fart vocals


:lol:

I have heard a lot of desciptions of Death growling, but that one is pretty damn funny.


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they aren't all like that but some I've experienced that is the only way to describe them


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Ok, now I have a better idea of what you meant ala Lord Worm.

You have a nice survey of the genre there.

Certainly the new Mournful Congregation, reviewed admirably here:
http://www.metalreviews.com/reviews/detail.php3?id=7427

My favorite track from it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G2Dya_Eb6g

Give Monolithe a shot if you have time for a 50 minute track. This band is rapidly evolving to something else in there career, less funeral doom, but still good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVgom0T_tXo

Shape of Despair is one of those more borderline funeral doom bands (Think Esoteric, Evoken, or Dolorian, I'll go into that more later on another thread, I've been putting together a sort of genre history for a while now...)
But I find this track tends to hook people into the genre.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKvGr95WBRU

Colosseum was another good one, ask Define Infinity for more info on that band. Several Skepticism albums are excellent (Stormcrowfleet for the raw, Alloy for the more polished sound), Ahab's Call of the Wretched Sea, Abstract Spirit's Tragedy and Weeds http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIGXLgut53A , Thergothon's only full length and a bunch more. This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:


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This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:
Get on it! With winter break coming up...


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This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:
Get on it! With winter break coming up...


Seriously, ebd. Enough talking, make with the list!


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
North From Here wrote:
This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:
Get on it! With winter break coming up...


Seriously, ebd. Enough talking, make with the list!


Ouch, peer pressure. Ok, I need to be more goal oriented, anyway. Two weeks then.


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actually that's one hell of a good idea

progression of genre threads would be great, thanks for the idea I'm gonna do that over on my other forum when it's back online


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North From Here wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
North From Here wrote:
This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:
Get on it! With winter break coming up...


Seriously, ebd. Enough talking, make with the list!


Ouch, peer pressure. Ok, I need to be more goal oriented, anyway. Two weeks then.
When semester is over and what not.


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North From Here wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
North From Here wrote:
This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:
Get on it! With winter break coming up...


Seriously, ebd. Enough talking, make with the list!


Ouch, peer pressure. Ok, I need to be more goal oriented, anyway. Two weeks then.


Hehe, relax guy. I can wait, I was just fucking around.


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RelentlessOblivion wrote:
actually that's one hell of a good idea

progression of genre threads would be great, thanks for the idea I'm gonna do that over on my other forum when it's back online


I long had the idea but a few debates I had with Steve actually spawned real consideration over the shape of the genre.

He considers Evoken a death/doom band while other people label Evoken a funeral doom band or funeral/death/doom hybrid, you know, the stand genre splitting that goes on in any forum.

Evoken is a track title from Thergothon's album, Thergothon is considered a father of funeral doom along with Skepticism so I always assumed it was pretty simple. But reading an Evoken interview opened my eyes to how closely related the death/doom (think the big 3 English Yorkshire bands+early Katatonia and a few others, Winter, etc) was to funeral doom, at least at the genesis of funeral doom. The guy from Evoken, Nick Orlando, basically said early funeral doom was just death/doom, maybe slowed down a bit, and that Skepticism and the whole funeral doom moniker evolved out of the Red Stream label and their press about the organs Skepticism used in their music. He spent more time talking about MDB than Skepticism or Thergothon or whatever.

I think death/doom is a relatively dead genre (I guess revivalist bands like My Shameful are still around somewhere) but most death/doom bands...or dare say it proto-funeral doom bands evolved into a gothic rock sound (Katatonia, Paradise Lost, Anathema), a style still proven to be highly successful by newer bands like 40 Watt Sun.

So what I am trying to say? MDB should be credited with funeral doom's founding? No...not exactly (I wish!), but all the darker side of doom bands are heavily interrelated, which I aim to talk more about when putting Esoteric to early Anathema to Dolorian to Skepticism in the same not stoner/sludge/traditional doom/post Neurosis or Sabbath revivalist basket.

Drawing a line from Sabbath to Pentagram to Candlemass to Electric Wizard to Baroness is somebody else's job! :lol:


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Thrashtildeth wrote:
North From Here wrote:
Thrashtildeth wrote:
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North From Here wrote:
This should give you a nice start while I get writing over the next few weeks... :lol:
Get on it! With winter break coming up...


Seriously, ebd. Enough talking, make with the list!


Ouch, peer pressure. Ok, I need to be more goal oriented, anyway. Two weeks then.


Hehe, relax guy. I can wait, I was just fucking around.


I forgot the smiley.


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That's actually a cute trajectory. I do however want to push back on that doomdeath being dead during the week that I reviewed Dragged into Sunlight.


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traptunderice wrote:
That's actually a cute trajectory. I do however want to push back on that doomdeath being dead during the week that I reviewed Dragged into Sunlight.


Oh right, I'll have to check out their new one, completely forgot about their old one too.


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