RelentlessOblivion wrote:
actually that's one hell of a good idea
progression of genre threads would be great, thanks for the idea I'm gonna do that over on my other forum when it's back online
I long had the idea but a few debates I had with Steve actually spawned real consideration over the shape of the genre.
He considers Evoken a death/doom band while other people label Evoken a funeral doom band or funeral/death/doom hybrid, you know, the stand genre splitting that goes on in any forum.
Evoken is a track title from Thergothon's album, Thergothon is considered a father of funeral doom along with Skepticism so I always assumed it was pretty simple. But reading an Evoken interview opened my eyes to how closely related the death/doom (think the big 3 English Yorkshire bands+early Katatonia and a few others, Winter, etc) was to funeral doom, at least at the genesis of funeral doom. The guy from Evoken, Nick Orlando, basically said early funeral doom was just death/doom, maybe slowed down a bit, and that Skepticism and the whole funeral doom moniker evolved out of the Red Stream label and their press about the organs Skepticism used in their music. He spent more time talking about MDB than Skepticism or Thergothon or whatever.
I think death/doom is a relatively dead genre (I guess revivalist bands like My Shameful are still around somewhere) but most death/doom bands...or dare say it proto-funeral doom bands evolved into a gothic rock sound (Katatonia, Paradise Lost, Anathema), a style still proven to be highly successful by newer bands like 40 Watt Sun.
So what I am trying to say? MDB should be credited with funeral doom's founding? No...not exactly (I wish!), but all the darker side of doom bands are heavily interrelated, which I aim to talk more about when putting Esoteric to early Anathema to Dolorian to Skepticism in the same not stoner/sludge/traditional doom/post Neurosis or Sabbath revivalist basket.
Drawing a line from Sabbath to Pentagram to Candlemass to Electric Wizard to Baroness is somebody else's job!
