leee wrote:
Here is the point you all keep missing with your usual euro dismissive single minded solutions to everything...
1. People are never going to give up their guns in the US or vote for the outright banning of them, no matter what happens. It goes back to our whole freedom issue and other things deeply set in our culture. It is more then just wanting to blow away anyone you see when you go crazy.
I said "if guns were prohobited", that does not state anything about the process of getting rid of guns, ofcourse Americans don't want to give up their right to shoot people dead.
leee wrote:
2. There are already so many guns out there it wouldn't matter, if Psycho A wanted a gun, he would get one, no problem. I bet I could buy 6 today if wanted one.
I'm glad I live here, psychos can't get guns here, so we don't have 11000 people shot dead per year.
leee wrote:
3. How many people on this board have a gun in their bedroom? I have two, I never shot anybody and I'm sure the percentages of owners vs people who do school massacres is in the .00001 percent range. Misha if you pissed me off I wouldn't shoot you.
Not talking about school massacres alone, if there's an armed buglar in your home, he's more likely to kill someone holding a gun that me doing nothing.
leee wrote:
4. Typical European knee jerk reactions to this are predictable and ignorant. Take care of your own. You all are no better then those who blame this behaviour on metal or video games and refuse to put personal responsibilty on the people who do these things. Yes I know Europe is home to very strict anti race laws, censorship, movie banning, music banning, free though banning, etc (Video nasties, Germanies ban on anything with a slight Nazi refrence, Muslim not allowed to wear those head wraps in school, etc etc.). The US isn't like Europe and those types of laws won't work here.
I'm afraid Europe is more free than you think, if I speak for where I live, I'm infinitely more free in the things I might like to do: drinking and tripping than I am in the USA (although I couldn't care so much about the latter). I never noticed anything about movie or music banning either, censorship on Dutch television is far less severe than in the US, we had steve o nail his ball to his leg at primetime, zoomed in, you guys freak over a boob or a middle finger and someone saying fuck. You claim that I don't know shit about America, but it seems that you know very little about what's going on here either, otherwise you wouldn't say that I'm less free than you. Muslims are allowed to wear whatever they want here, still, and being Nazi here will not scare anyone. Prostitution is legal here, as well as mushrooms and cannabis. The only thing the USA is so free about is driving around (it's harder to get a licence here, you have to be able to drive and stuff) and guns. So basically everything you can kill others with.
leee wrote:
5. And the most important thing of all. Instead of arguing about it, playing it off with some stupid political smart mouthing about people dying in suicide bombs, how about some respect and a moment of silence for another shitty incident in a volatile world.
I like discussion, is that bad?