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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 11:09 am 
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Zad wrote:
Ken, finally I understand.


LOL! But seriously, if I had a credit card I'd make a donation right now, I feel very guilty :S

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I think Zad is right, and besides: what the fuck does anyone care if they can have a gif as avatar. Bunch of kids :rolleyes:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:30 pm 
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Jesus, we have a rebel uprising on our hands. Clearly changing my avatar did little to defuse things.


your selfless sacrifice... it was in vain... :(

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Zad wrote:
Bloody hell, you're all overreacting.

Of course there's a Donate button, else why would I be mentioning it?

http://www.metalreviews.com/donations.htm

It's at the bottom right-hand of the homepage.

The GIF rule is about making the forum run smoothly for everyone. Since my work computer, which is reasonably fast and has broadband, nearly crashed after one page full of Hellwhore's posts (and that's no indication of the quality or lack thereof of his posts!) and so I doubt I'm the only one who has had problems. I never said GIFs were banned and ordered people to do anything, I explained the situation and asked people to remove them. There's a hell of a difference. Seriously, how long have I been a moderator here? And how many times have I acted like a dictator? Exactly; none.

People around here always have problems when moderators do anything that affects THEIR forum. Remember when swear words were changed? When the whole forum was more or less under crackdown? There is no way that any moderator currently moderising here is a harsh master, and making a big deal out of a request to remove some petty GIFs is ridiculous.

How am I controlling you by asking you to change your avatar? Jesus, Stefan, have a little mercy on us evil totalitarians!

It'll happen eventually, Jeff. If anyone actually bothers reading what people say around here then they'd know that that kind of thing costs money. We don't get money from running the site, in fact, it makes quite a dent in Chris' finances. Why do we continue to shell out? Because we care about the music. Now, is it really so harsh to ask why (I never actually demanded money, grandbazaar) there hasn't been a single donation in the history of the Donate button? Why is this a "dictatorship"? IT ISN'T. By leaving this thread open I'm allowing you people to fling all kinds of shit at me that would not be tolerated anywhere else. I give plenty of respect: by not having peoples' GIFs removed via the magic of the Admin system, but by requesting that they be removed, that's respect rite theya.

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Since when is MetalReviews mission to collect cash from it's readers ? Since when has MR become a capitalist whore ? If you really want cash that bad maybe you should rethink the whole website and go for subscriptions instead...
But you know what ? By insulting me and other forum mates (with your cheapo implied remarks), you have just inspired me to never donate nor give a penny of my hard earned cash to MR .


Upgrades cost money, programmers cost money, servers cost money. There's never a nice way to ask for money, but why does having to pay these costs (no-one will ever be able to live from this place) mean that we're turning into capitalist whores? You're being ridiculous.

And come on, if you were going to donate anything you'd have done it by now. Don't act all insulted because I 'implied' that people are tight - what else am I supposed to think?

Ken, finally I understand.


Yes I admit, I overreacted. Not because of the no GIF policy because really, I couldn't care less because I don't use them.
It just the way things were handled. Look, Zad, your first comments critizize us for not donating, for not contributing, implying that we would be banned on other forums for giving our opinion (which I sort of relate to as a threat), simply because we mention the no GIF policy should have no exceptions. How is that having a problem with the moderater ? I mean do I have a track record for not complying to the moderaters demands ?

As for the money situation, in my previous argument I used strong words.... but I felt obliged as you made it quite clear you felt snubbed and pissed about having no donations in a context that it had nothing to do with in the first place. It's basically how you brought the subject and in the actual context that I didn't like. For the record, I didn't even know a donation button even existed for this website, so maybe it would be a great idea to rethink it's placement ! A quick poll will also possibly indicate that there is more people not knowing about this than you might think.

No hard feelings.


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Ya Zad.

U R NAWT DA BAWZ OF MEH.

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Mintrude wrote:
Anyways, 'cause I'm such a nice guy, I've thrown myself on the grenade to prevent a shitstorm.


I was going to reply after reading Zads post but too many bad words were coming from my mouth (some of them in spanish) so i decided to cool it down and reply later, so today i read your post and i have to say thank you Mintrude for being the better man, as far as im concerned everything is cool now, no one gets to use animated gifs and thats it.

Zad youre a clown.



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 Post subject: Re: avatars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 6:12 pm 
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Stefan wrote:
if Mintrude removes his, I'll remove mine.
So now Stefan, and not Zad, is the bad guy right?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 7:39 pm 
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It was time for a change for me anyway and I don't really care if I use a gif or not. I'd probably go without an avatar for the time being, though.


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Stefan wrote:
if Mintrude removes his, I'll remove mine.
So now Stefan, and not Zad, is the bad guy right?


He asked me to delete his account, anyways.


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Mintrude wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Stefan wrote:
if Mintrude removes his, I'll remove mine.
So now Stefan, and not Zad, is the bad guy right?


He asked me to delete his account, anyways.


Isn't this the twelfth time he's done that?


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whiny bitches.


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Sorry to say Zad, but you've become Ken.


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whiny bitches.


you make me proud ov having family ties with the biggest family in Canada... you are awsome :P


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Brahm_K wrote:
Mintrude wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Stefan wrote:
if Mintrude removes his, I'll remove mine.
So now Stefan, and not Zad, is the bad guy right?


He asked me to delete his account, anyways.


Isn't this the twelfth time he's done that?


Well, anyways I've done as he wished. He may come back in the future, I dunno.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 12:50 am 
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I'm not looking to further "stir the pot" but I have a pressing need to ask a question. Isn't there exponentially more important issues in life to take a stand on than if we're able to use animated pictures as avatars? I'm a member on forums where they don't allow avatars at all and everyone is just fine. How and why did this ever escalate to this level?


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Raven wrote:
I'm not looking to further "stir the pot" but I have a pressing need to ask a question. Isn't there exponentially more important issues in life to take a stand on than if we're able to use animated pictures as avatars? I'm a member on forums where they don't allow avatars at all and everyone is just fine. How and why did this ever escalate to this level?

What irked me most is that mintrude was allowed to keep his, though immense kudos to him for removing it himself. Admins and mods are expected to be part of the community, not above it, and all the wincing about there being more important things in life is irrelevant as there still is the feeling of a certain fairness and regulation on any decent online forum.


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 Post subject: Re: avatars
PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 1:01 am 
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Mintrude wrote:
Brahm_K wrote:
Mintrude wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Stefan wrote:
if Mintrude removes his, I'll remove mine.
So now Stefan, and not Zad, is the bad guy right?


He asked me to delete his account, anyways.


Isn't this the twelfth time he's done that?


He may come back in the future, I dunno.


But will he go back to the future?


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Karmakosmonaut wrote:
Raven wrote:
I'm not looking to further "stir the pot" but I have a pressing need to ask a question. Isn't there exponentially more important issues in life to take a stand on than if we're able to use animated pictures as avatars? I'm a member on forums where they don't allow avatars at all and everyone is just fine. How and why did this ever escalate to this level?

What irked me most is that mintrude was allowed to keep his, though immense kudos to him for removing it himself. Admins and mods are expected to be part of the community, not above it, and all the wincing about there being more important things in life is irrelevant as there still is the feeling of a certain fairness and regulation on any decent online forum.


What's considered "fair" is really subjective isn't it? What's the basis for comparison for what's fair and what isn't in regards to avatars? If a moderator issues a request that has merit then why not honor the request and then debate the issue later?

I guess I just don't get it. :blink:


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Your'e too old man!

No, that was harsh.

But seriously, kudos to Mintrude, and whi really cares about the avatars anyways?


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metal_xxx wrote:
Your'e too old man!



:lol:

No, I've just been through way too much life to really give a shit about an avatar. That's the reality of it. :wink:


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