traptunderice wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Seinfeld26 wrote:
traptunderice wrote:
Religious beliefs aren't comparable to skin color, right? One is a choice that one should expect to defend while the other is a shade of a spectrum that shouldn't even be noticed or recognized.
I was just pointing out that discrimination against either trait qualifies as "prejudice." The same holds true for discrimination against atheists.
It's not prejudice. I don't hate people for being christians. I hate christians for submitting to a religion which I feel ruins the world, in a nutshell. No time to elaborate.
The anti-Christian crowd are just as full of shit as the opposite end of the spectrum; anyone that claims they
know about the what the origins (or what they are NOT) of the universe / life / death / the world are, are full of shit. Period.
Most people can barely manage their own lives, let alone "have it all figured out".
That being said, do you harbor the same feelings towards Muslims and Orthodox Jews? What about Hindus? What do you think of the Nation of Islam?
Or are you... whats the word I'm looking for... discriminating?
I'm going to side with Frig and say that I make no positive pronouncements about the universe etc.
I don't dislike Islam insofar as it can be an emancipatory group. However when people submit to it ignoring human rights it's a little disheartening. Hinduism and Judaism really don't bother me. The Nation of Islam, i.e., Malcolm X not really Farrakahn, was pretty awesome. They were willing to say what MLK said but was ignored for. MLK became very anti-statist yet that's whitewashed out of history nowadays. MLK's dream wasn't about being tolerated it was about living in a country which he had a stake in.
Selective hate, then. Just as I thought.
Next. the NoI is a racist organization, but according to typical liberal thinking, racism is just fine when it is directed towards Whites... self-loathing must really suck.
Funny how the only ones expected to be "colorblind" are those of European heritage.
BTW, a lot of things about MLK are "whitwashed" out of history nowadays.
So, the "human rights" abuses, like stoning rape victims, is " a littel disheartening", eh?
hahaha.
Malcolm X was being racist when he said whites were physically oppressing him? Yeah, a lot of what the Nation preaches is racism but I was mainly approving of Malcolm X. I don't self loathe since I don't describe myself as white. I'm a human being and race doesn't exist. However, if you think blacks are inherently inferior which you seem to basically do whenever we argue about this you may want to disassociate yourself with that.
Yeah MLK did get whitewashed into something acceptable to conservative middle class white America when actually the guy wanted to overthrow the whole business and do it right, ie: create a country where people are truly equal as opposed to being simply tolerated.
As for Islam and human rights, it is disheartening to see a religion with the possibility of being open-minded and productive in challenging western discrimination and oppression being tainted by sexist power hungry whack jobs. Stoning women and targeting Israel prevents the masses of the Middle East from looking at the real problem of their leaders selling their people's possibility of a good life for their own personal wealth paid for by the West.
Edit: The Dark Knight is awesome. I bought it last night actually. I'd go rent Batman Begins first if you haven't seen it though. It's not necessary but it'll make it a better viewing I'd imagine.
You don't get it, seriously.
Race doesn't exist? Than how can racism exist? Only stupid, guilt ridden liberals believe that little catch phrase of "we are all the same race; the human race"... ahhh, how cute. Every other group is aware that yes, there are different races, and yes, they have differences. There are not many groups more ethnocentric than blacks, every thing is race this, race that... blah blah blah...
why do blacks have their own beauty pageants, their own award shows, their own colleges, their own TV networks, if "we are all the same race"? Why is there Affirmitive Action? Why is there an NAACP? Why is Obama hailed as the first BLACK president, and such a big fuss was made about breaking down RACIAL barriers?
Two words: Prof. Gates. So, a cop is doing his job, and the cry is racism... how, if race does'nt exist? Especially when two out the three present officers are not even white?
I never said blacks are inherently inferior.
Your comprehension skills need to be honed up a bit. Is this what passes for college material these days? Scary.
I said (in a nutshell) that they as a group have a ways to go in living up to what all those that marched and fought for a couple of generations ago... Bill Cosby said the same things, yet, since it is coming from a white male (if we are all the same race why is it racist when someone with white skin points these things out, but not when someone with darker skin does the same?), it is "racist"... more typical liberal hypocrisy. And facts are facts: no sub-Saharan African nation has come close to approaching the level of civilisation that Europe, Asia and Latin America have built. You can blame it on this and that, but those are merely excuses. Like saying that Shaquille O'Neal is only good at basketball because he is tall, fast and can put the ball in the hole, and others are not because they do not possess those traits.
Is it fair that Shaq was born with these traits, while others are stuck in a pointless job selling shoes? That's life, neither fair, nor unfair.
At least I'm not a coward afraid to tell the truth.
Not gonna take the bait, though, son, because you'll just whine to the mods and I'll get chastised and ostracized and you'll have your Pyhrric victory, and frankly you're not worth the trouble.
As for the HYPOCRISY in hating Christians while summing up Islam as:
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being open-minded and productive in challenging western discrimination and oppression
well, I guess that figures.
And with that, I take my leave from this whole pile of steaming shit, before it gets ugly.