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Stop talking that
Blah blah blah
Think you'll be getting this
Nah nah nah


"Don't be a little bitch with your chit-chat
Just show me where your dick's at"

Cool.


Works for me.


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"Hi I try to make being a trashy whore cool. Har har har. Misogyny leads men to treat women like fuck toys so I'm going to act like men are just for fucking without any notice to the fact that when men do it they wear all their clothing while I look like I walk the streets."

What a dumb bitch.

My social conservative leanings scare me sometimes but it basically only comes out when sex is being market or women are being whored out so it's cool.


Wow! Hopefully your social conservative side becomes contagious!


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traptunderice wrote:
"Hi I try to make being a trashy whore cool. Har har har. Misogyny leads men to treat women like fuck toys so I'm going to act like men are just for fucking without any notice to the fact that when men do it they wear all their clothing while I look like I walk the streets."

What a dumb bitch.

My social conservative leanings scare me sometimes but it basically only comes out when sex is being market or women are being whored out so it's cool.


Wow! Hopefully your social conservative side becomes contagious!
Contagious to other people or to the rest of my views?

Honestly, selling sex is imo the same as slavery; it implies an objectification of an individual for viewing pleasure or labor power (in the case of slavery) in order to extract a profit from. Fucking loathsome behavior.

"But she chooses to do it and she makes money off of it so who are you to say what she can do with her body!" Blah blah. I don't enjoy living in a society which condones and participates in women or men for that matter debasing themselves for the pleasure of others. If she's an artist let her sell albums with her talent, not her dick craving antics.


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If someone chooses to use their sexual appeal to sell themselves, then you as an independent observer have no right to stop them. I'd rather live in a society where someone selling themselves through their body is permitted rather than a society where it's banned. Ideally, yes, she'd sell through musical talent, but just because being sexy is her only talent doesn't mean you have to get all authoritarian on her ass.


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But she's-

Nope, not getting into this again.

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But....she's ugly. :wacko:


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Goat wrote:
If someone chooses to use their sexual appeal to sell themselves, then you as an independent observer have no right to stop them. I'd rather live in a society where someone selling themselves through their body is permitted rather than a society where it's banned. Ideally, yes, she'd sell through musical talent, but just because being sexy is her only talent doesn't mean you have to get all authoritarian on her ass.



No, you don't have the right to stop them and I doubt Trapt would be for stopping her. He does, however, have the right to say it's pretty pathetic and disgusting.


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I do think there's a bit of a double standard going on here... How many guys here feel they'd be appreciated by the general public if they tried flaunting their own sexuality?

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But....she's ugly. :wacko:


But ugly people need lovin too don't they :lol:


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MetalStorm wrote:
Metastable To Chaos wrote:
But....she's ugly. :wacko:


But ugly people need lovin too don't they :lol:

Heh, indeed.

I had to watch the video to see what all the fuss was about.
I'm normally not a very authoritarian person, but she tests my limits.
One thing is for sure, she is the final stage in human evolution.

Then again, hasn't the vast majority of female pop music, particularly since the music video age, involved sexuality on some level? A matter of degree/overtness in her which perhaps makes it too revolting.

Oh and trapt, I was just making a joke.


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emperorblackdoom wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Metastable To Chaos wrote:
But....she's ugly. :wacko:


But ugly people need lovin too don't they :lol:

Heh, indeed.

I had to watch the video to see what all the fuss was about.
I'm normally not a very authoritarian person, but she tests my limits.
One thing is for sure, she is the final stage in human evolution.

Then again, hasn't the vast majority of female pop music, particularly since the music video age, involved sexuality on some level? A matter of degree/overtness in her which perhaps makes it too revolting.

Oh and trapt, I was just making a joke.


No more overt thank Mick Jagger or Axl Rose grabbing his crotch. What the fuck, guys.

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
emperorblackdoom wrote:
MetalStorm wrote:
Metastable To Chaos wrote:
But....she's ugly. :wacko:


But ugly people need lovin too don't they :lol:

Heh, indeed.

I had to watch the video to see what all the fuss was about.
I'm normally not a very authoritarian person, but she tests my limits.
One thing is for sure, she is the final stage in human evolution.

Then again, hasn't the vast majority of female pop music, particularly since the music video age, involved sexuality on some level? A matter of degree/overtness in her which perhaps makes it too revolting.

Oh and trapt, I was just making a joke.


No more overt thank Mick Jagger or Axl Rose grabbing his crotch. What the fuck, guys.


True. Then again I was never found of that either...

I just can label it all under the same popular music category and hate each and every last part of it!


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Goat wrote:
If someone chooses to use their sexual appeal to sell themselves, then you as an independent observer have no right to stop them. I'd rather live in a society where someone selling themselves through their body is permitted rather than a society where it's banned. Ideally, yes, she'd sell through musical talent, but just because being sexy is her only talent doesn't mean you have to get all authoritarian on her ass.
Not complaining about her having the right to do it. Complaining about how we have a society who eats it up and basks in it not realizing that she isn't just a cooch and tits. She obviously has no voice. I never said she should be stoned. Her audience should be.
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No more overt thank Mick Jagger or Axl Rose grabbing his crotch. What the fuck, guys.
This is exactly what I meant. Jagger didn't dress like a prostitute when he did this. We live in a phallocentric society where Jagger makes women bow down to his pelvic thrusts while her "where's your dick at" is welcomed by men who are basically if that's how you're going to be I'll take some. There's a difference between the worship and exploitation.


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Goat wrote:
If someone chooses to use their sexual appeal to sell themselves, then you as an independent observer have no right to stop them. I'd rather live in a society where someone selling themselves through their body is permitted rather than a society where it's banned. Ideally, yes, she'd sell through musical talent, but just because being sexy is her only talent doesn't mean you have to get all authoritarian on her ass.
Not complaining about her having the right to do it. Complaining about how we have a society who eats it up and basks in it not realizing that she isn't just a cooch and tits. She obviously has no voice. I never said she should be stoned. Her audience should be.
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No more overt thank Mick Jagger or Axl Rose grabbing his crotch. What the fuck, guys.
This is exactly what I meant. Jagger didn't dress like a prostitute when he did this. We live in a phallocentric society where Jagger makes women bow down to his pelvic thrusts while her "where's your dick at" is welcomed by men who are basically if that's how you're going to be I'll take some. There's a difference between the worship and exploitation.


Assuming that Jagger's pelvic thrusts aren't being welcomed by his female fanbase with the same intensity that the men welcome Ke$ha-esque dancing. You've relegated the female role in the bedroom into this alcove of limiting idealization and perverse feminism. It seems like the ideal situation for women is for them to be physically ignored in a sexual context, or for them to never be grabbed or moved somewhere forcefully in bed, when many, many women will tell you how much they actually enjoy having someone take control.
What you're missing is that "taking control" is in no way exclusively linked to the standard male-female relationship, thereby depriving it as a concept of any inherent moral value as fare as gender roles are concerned. You're issuing a judgment call without taking into consideration things like personal quirks, fetishes, psychological mindsets, fantasies, etc.
Ke$ha is merely expressing a heretofore unorthodox attitude for women in the mainstream pop scene to take. Talking about using men or comparing them to accessories ("Boots & Boys") probably isn't welcomed by many men.

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The fact that some venal, tacky whore illiicits more replies in half a day than the King Diamond thread does in three here is pretty fucking sad and pathetic.
Who cares about about some worthless slut that only a man of very little honor or self respect would touch with a ten foot pole?

Anybody that would touch this fucking petri dish better have had their shots.


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The fact that some venal, tacky whore illiicits more replies in half a day than the King Diamond thread does in three here is pretty fucking sad and pathetic.
Who cares about about some worthless slut that only a man of very little honor or self respect would touch with a ten foot pole?

Anybody that would touch this fucking petri dish better have had their shots.


We like arguing :(

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FrigidSymphony wrote:
cry of the banshee wrote:
The fact that some venal, tacky whore illiicits more replies in half a day than the King Diamond thread does in three here is pretty fucking sad and pathetic.
Who cares about about some worthless slut that only a man of very little honor or self respect would touch with a ten foot pole?

Anybody that would touch this fucking petri dish better have had their shots.


We like arguing :(

Argue about metal, you bitches! :dio:


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cry of the banshee wrote:
The fact that some venal, tacky whore illiicits more replies in half a day than the King Diamond thread does in three here is pretty fucking sad and pathetic.
Who cares about about some worthless slut that only a man of very little honor or self respect would touch with a ten foot pole?

Anybody that would touch this fucking petri dish better have had their shots.


Everyone loves KD. Pop stars that like to flaunt it, however, are more controversial, so get more comments.


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cry of the banshee wrote:
The fact that some venal, tacky whore illiicits more replies in half a day than the King Diamond thread does in three here is pretty fucking sad and pathetic.
Who cares about about some worthless slut that only a man of very little honor or self respect would touch with a ten foot pole?

Anybody that would touch this fucking petri dish better have had their shots.


Haha.

I was expecting a response like this was coming from V, and it still made me laugh.


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